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Basis 108 - Cherry M8 low profile
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 01:07
by snuci
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 01:08
by snuci
Last pics:

- Basis 108 - full computer
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- Basis 108 - computer profile
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Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 18:47
by terrycherry
Excellent! First to see the LED variant and the black.
Thanks again for the quality photo^^
Posted: 23 Mar 2017, 09:50
by groinksan
I've successfully reverse-engineered the Basis 108 keyboard. It is quite interesting for two reasons.
One, unlike other Apple II keyboards, this keyboard is not an ASCII keyboard. It uses scan codes! It actually pre-dates PS/2 protocols. The scan codes allow the keyboard's language to change on the host. The Basis 108 is capable of using ROMs customized to a particular country. As far as I know, Basis officially only supported U.S. and German key arrangements. I'm now in the process of developing an adapter to replace the proprietary keyboard with a PS/2 keyboard.
And two, although the codes were published on-line, I believe the analog version of the keyboard that I have differs from the digital version that is documented. Someone else developed a similar adapter, but it didn't work with my keyboard.
I've completed the hardware portion of it, which is really an Arduino in a DB-25 clamshell case. I'm now writing the software. Writing the software is a challenge because the existing PS/2 libraries for the Arduino isn't allowing me to read raw PS/2 packets, so I can monitor for example the reset sequence (both CONTROL keys held down at the same time.)
https://www.facebook.com/pg/8Bit808/pho ... 9287188431
Posted: 23 Mar 2017, 09:57
by seebart
groinksan wrote: I've successfully reverse-engineered the Basis 108 keyboard. It is quite interesting for two reasons.
One, unlike other Apple II keyboards, this keyboard is not an ASCII keyboard. It uses scan codes! It actually pre-dates PS/2 protocols. The scan codes allow the keyboard's language to change on the host. The Basis 108 is capable of using ROMs customized to a particular country. As far as I know, Basis officially only supported U.S. and German key arrangements. I'm now in the process of developing an adapter to replace the proprietary keyboard with a PS/2 keyboard.
And two, although the codes were published on-line, I believe the analog version of the keyboard that I have differs from the digital version that is documented. Someone else developed a similar adapter, but it didn't work with my keyboard.
I've completed the hardware portion of it, which is really an Arduino in a DB-25 clamshell case. I'm now writing the software. Writing the software is a challenge because the existing PS/2 libraries for the Arduino isn't allowing me to read raw PS/2 packets, so I can monitor for example the reset sequence (both CONTROL keys held down at the same time.)
https://www.facebook.com/pg/8Bit808/pho ... 9287188431
Impressive work! Keep us updated please.
Posted: 10 Jun 2017, 20:20
by mr_a500
I searched for years for one of these keyboards. I gave up when I found out they were open Cherry M8 switches. (which... suck)
Posted: 13 Jun 2017, 16:21
by Mr.Nobody
@mr_a500
Still a good-looking board...
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 01:41
by mr_a500
Yeah, that's why I searched.
Now that I've got a couple (1979/80) Cherry keyboards, I can easily tell that the Basis keycaps are Cherry (without looking at the switch). Even though I'm not fond of Cherry switches, those early Cherry double-shots have very crisp lettering and look great.
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 02:48
by zslane
Now
that's a beige keyboard...

Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 02:56
by snuci
zslane wrote: Now
that's a beige keyboard...

It is definitely beige as the cast iron computer case is painted beige (and weighs a @#%^ing ton) and the keyboard case has remained the same colour.
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 09:42
by Daniel Beardsmore
Cast iron!?
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 14:11
by snuci
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: Cast iron!?
I've seen cast iron in computer/terminal bases before and I've seen magnesium alloy cases (NeXT Cube) but never a cast iron top case until this one. I don't recall but I think the bottom base is cast iron as well. Would have been cool if the keyboard followed suit.
Posted: 14 Jun 2017, 21:09
by Daniel Beardsmore
If it was a more recent computer, you could argue that they were trying to outdo IBM in terms of the weight of a PS/2 tower.