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Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 23:12
by Blaise170
By the way everyone, the 6151 is actually Chicony OEM. I had a Samsung branded one awhile back.

Posted: 17 Nov 2015, 23:59
by E3E
seebart wrote:
courtesi wrote: NAN TAN COMPUTER CO Enhanced Keyboard CLICKY KB-6151EN ( New Old Stock )
http://www.ebay.com/itm/NAN-TAN-COMPUTE ... 1929975945

The Deskthority Wiki doesn't have a listing for this model # combo. However, complicated Blue Alps may be in it.
I own a NTC KB-6151N that has Alps SKCM Blue.

http://deskthority.net/keyboards-f2/ntc ... ?hilit=ntc
I also had an NTC KB-6151N

The "EN" is not the same. My FCC ID is different from the one listed on ebay. Please don't go into this thinking you're going to get blue Alps, because I'm 89% certain that these won't be. :P

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Also, Blaise, I think you're confusing the Chicony 5161 with the NTC 6151, which is understandable. Their number codes are anagrams of each other. Kinda ridiculous. :|

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:06
by E3E
seebart wrote:
klikkyklik wrote: Argh, yes - I meant Alps. Long day...
No problem, I obviously still get what you mean. But you are right, without desoldering there is no 100% way of telling, even though those very much look like other Alps SKCM Blue I own from the outside.
Er, well I guess I can confirm, being that I bricked my poor NTC and ended up desoldering the switches since I couldn't fix the board. They are indeed genuine. :)

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:06
by seebart
Mine lacks a label. But the PCB reads NTC KB-6151N AT/XT.
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Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:11
by E3E
seebart wrote: Mine lacks a label. But the PCB reads NTC KB-6151N AT/XT.
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Yep, likewise, and it allows for MX and Alps switch mounting. Hence the MX black with a Deskthority cap I had soldered onto the PCB, haha.

Very interesting board. Wish I could find another one, but I have happily found a replacement for it either way. :)

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:13
by Engicoder
I hopeful I will be able to buy this NTC for a second time :D

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:15
by Muirium
When they see it's you again, away it goes…

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:18
by Crazy Canadian XXIV
I'd laugh if they say their son sent it off to the recycling centre again. It'd be terrible, but I'd laugh.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:19
by E3E
Yeah, I read about that whole issue you had a while back, Engi. That's awfully peculiar, but I do hope that you can finally get your hands on it this time. :)

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:21
by seebart
Crazy Canadian XXIV wrote: I'd laugh if they say their son sent it off to the recycling centre again. It'd be terrible, but I'd laugh.
Sorry but I still don't buy that story.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:24
by Crazy Canadian XXIV
seebart wrote: A lot of stuff this time;

(Stuff)

IBM 5251 Word Processor Beam Spring

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-525 ... Swv0tVM0aK

(More stuff)
Forgot to quote this in my last post. Funny seeing that again, I posted it a few days ago, I think. Might've been a few weeks ago, time flies. Still way too expensive for what it is, sadly. In fact, I don't think the price has changed at all! Ebay truly is the land of shilling.
seebart wrote:
Crazy Canadian XXIV wrote: I'd laugh if they say their son sent it off to the recycling centre again. It'd be terrible, but I'd laugh.
Sorry but I still don't buy that story.
'Course not. That's why I'd laugh.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:40
by Tuntematon
Sometimes suspicious stories are true. I recently bought a semi-decent keyboard for really cheap, for roughly what you would expect just the shipping cost to be (pricing error?). The seller refunded me, claiming the keyboard was found to be non-functioning. I asked if they would be willing to sell it to me anyway (for cap harvesting) and they offered it to me at shipping cost, which was even cheaper. No profit for them. You never know.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:44
by Engicoder
seebart wrote:
Crazy Canadian XXIV wrote: I'd laugh if they say their son sent it off to the recycling centre again. It'd be terrible, but I'd laugh.
Sorry but I still don't buy that story.
I don't know what the truth is, but the current seller is in the same town as the original seller. There are a lot of possible scenarios.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 00:50
by Crazy Canadian XXIV
Engicoder wrote:
seebart wrote:
Crazy Canadian XXIV wrote: I'd laugh if they say their son sent it off to the recycling centre again. It'd be terrible, but I'd laugh.
Sorry but I still don't buy that story.
I don't know what the truth is, but the current seller is in the same town as the original seller. There are a lot of possible scenarios.
The only thing that really strikes me as plausible is that someone intercepted it at the recycling centre before it got recyclerified, as people often do (just ask Chyros). Alternatively, the seller is secretly one of us, making you jump through a bunch of hoops for shits 'n' giggles. :evilgeek:

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 01:04
by Tuntematon
I have confirmed with the seller that it has white switches. I would assume clone, since that's what the ENs typically come with.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 01:37
by Engicoder
Tuntematon wrote: I have confirmed with the seller that it has white switches. I would assume clone, since that's what the ENs typically come with.
Oh well, I already bought it. :D

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 01:42
by Crazy Canadian XXIV
Engicoder wrote:
Tuntematon wrote: I have confirmed with the seller that it has white switches. I would assume clone, since that's what the ENs typically come with.
Oh well, I already bought it. :D
How bad could they be? Do tell us when you get it.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 02:59
by Tuntematon
Engicoder wrote:
Tuntematon wrote: I have confirmed with the seller that it has white switches. I would assume clone, since that's what the ENs typically come with.
Oh well, I already bought it. :D
Yeah, too bad. The promise of blue Alps is always exciting, but the NIB factor makes this an enticing keyboard regardless.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 05:49
by E3E
Tuntematon wrote:
Engicoder wrote:
Tuntematon wrote: I have confirmed with the seller that it has white switches. I would assume clone, since that's what the ENs typically come with.
Oh well, I already bought it. :D
Yeah, too bad. The promise of blue Alps is always exciting, but the NIB factor makes this an enticing keyboard regardless.
Anything that's over 20 years old and still NIB is very impressive to me. I definitely agree that the NIB aspect alone is appealing.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 09:49
by Slom
Crazy Canadian XXIV wrote:
seebart wrote: A lot of stuff this time;

(Stuff)

IBM 5251 Word Processor Beam Spring

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-525 ... Swv0tVM0aK

(More stuff)
Forgot to quote this in my last post. Funny seeing that again, I posted it a few days ago, I think. Might've been a few weeks ago, time flies. Still way too expensive for what it is, sadly. In fact, I don't think the price has changed at all! Ebay truly is the land of shilling.
Well he had a more expensive (and more complete) one that appears to be gone ...

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 20:34
by HzFaq
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Model-MX ... 1890437439?

Pretty good price for ANSI doubleshots, nice keyboard to boot.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 22:59
by Stabilized
HzFaq wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Model-MX ... 1890437439?

Pretty good price for ANSI doubleshots, nice keyboard to boot.
Really good price on that, shame the shipping from the states on eBay is always so high.
Actually saying that, is that the normal price for shipping the size of a keyboard from the US abroad to the EU?

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 23:11
by stratokaster
Stabilized wrote:
HzFaq wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Model-MX ... 1890437439?

Pretty good price for ANSI doubleshots, nice keyboard to boot.
Really good price on that, shame the shipping from the states on eBay is always so high.
Actually saying that, is that the normal price for shipping the size of a keyboard from the US abroad to the EU?
Actually, shipping from the US used to be much lower. Prices went up ~2x (in some cases almost 3x) following the introduction of eBay's own Global Shipping Program.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 23:32
by Engicoder
Stabilized wrote:
HzFaq wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Model-MX ... 1890437439?

Pretty good price for ANSI doubleshots, nice keyboard to boot.
Really good price on that, shame the shipping from the states on eBay is always so high.
Actually saying that, is that the normal price for shipping the size of a keyboard from the US abroad to the EU?
For an individual, its between about $40-50 for a full size keyboard with proper packaging via USPS. It more for any of the shipping companies such as DHL, UPS, FedEx, etc.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 23:38
by Engicoder
stratokaster wrote:
Stabilized wrote:
HzFaq wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Model-MX ... 1890437439?

Pretty good price for ANSI doubleshots, nice keyboard to boot.
Really good price on that, shame the shipping from the states on eBay is always so high.
Actually saying that, is that the normal price for shipping the size of a keyboard from the US abroad to the EU?
Actually, shipping from the US used to be much lower. Prices went up ~2x (in some cases almost 3x) following the introduction of eBay's own Global Shipping Program.
Yes, you are now paying for the seller to ship it to eBay's partner and then for the partner to ship if to you. The up side is that you at least have the opportunity to buy things that the seller might not otherwise be willing to ship overseas. You can also contact the buyer and see if they will direct ship and reduce the cost some. I have been on the receiving end of such a request in the past.

Posted: 18 Nov 2015, 23:56
by XMIT
Engicoder wrote:
Stabilized wrote:
HzFaq wrote: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Cherry-Model-MX ... 1890437439?

Pretty good price for ANSI doubleshots, nice keyboard to boot.
Really good price on that, shame the shipping from the states on eBay is always so high.
Actually saying that, is that the normal price for shipping the size of a keyboard from the US abroad to the EU?
For an individual, its between about $40-50 for a full size keyboard with proper packaging via USPS. It more for any of the shipping companies such as DHL, UPS, FedEx, etc.
Yes. My standard keyboard box is about 24x12x4 inches and 6 pounds. Shipping usually comes to about $45 to most of Europe and $60 if you're lucky enough to live in the UK. I get a much better rate using FedEx to Canada.

Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 00:01
by Stabilized
Wow ok I didn't realise how much the prices can vary. Comparing what everyone has said, it doesn't actually seem to bad considering.
Interesting about the global shipping that eBay offers, bearing that in mind I will try contacting the seller and see where that gets me.

Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 01:48
by Tuntematon
E3Eves wrote:Anything that's over 20 years old and still NIB is very impressive to me. I definitely agree that the NIB aspect alone is appealing.
Apparently there are others who agree. It's currently at $92 plus shipping. I was not expecting that.

Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 02:06
by Engicoder
Not sure I'm going to get this one after all.

Posted: 19 Nov 2015, 03:18
by Blaise170
Holy moly! I got a notification from my phone that it was up to $92! That's crazy, if it had Blues it would be worth but not for clones in my opinion.