deskthority

seebart wrote: […]
I like this layout with the dual "Z" and "Y" and secondary symbols on the top row. Also ANSI enter and large left shift, this is what ISO should always look like. A bit like on my symbols only M0115 layout.[…]

How is that ISO? Or am I missing the sarcasm?

Lustique wrote:

seebart wrote: […]
I like this layout with the dual "Z" and "Y" and secondary symbols on the top row. Also ANSI enter and large left shift, this is what ISO should always look like. A bit like on my symbols only M0115 layout.[…]

How is that ISO? Or am I missing the sarcasm?

If you look at the previous page you can see it's called Czech QWERTZ which is not ISO and I did not say so!

seebart wrote:

Lustique wrote:

seebart wrote: […]
I like this layout with the dual "Z" and "Y" and secondary symbols on the top row. Also ANSI enter and large left shift, this is what ISO should always look like. A bit like on my symbols only M0115 layout.[…]

How is that ISO? Or am I missing the sarcasm?

If you look at the previous page you can see it's called Czech QWERTZ which is not ISO and I did not say so!

Yes, I know. The part I thought was a bit ‘objectionable’ was ‘ANSI enter and large left shift, this is what ISO should always look like’. Because that would literally make the layout ANSI, wouldn't it? I didn't want to attack you or anything either, by the way.

No, your right but the joke is it's obviously neither ISO nor ANSI. Have a look at my Apple AEK in our Alps appreciation thread, that's an even more extreme example.

seebart wrote: No, your right but the joke is it's obviously neither ISO nor ANSI. Have a look at my Apple AEK in our Alps appreciation thread, that's an even more extreme example.

Could you please link it ? I know there is a search engine, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it

Myoth wrote:

seebart wrote: No, your right but the joke is it's obviously neither ISO nor ANSI. Have a look at my Apple AEK in our Alps appreciation thread, that's an even more extreme example.

Could you please link it ? I know there is a search engine, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it

My guess is seebart means this thread here.

EDIT: The AEK II, I assume (4th post from the top).

seebart wrote: No, your right but the joke is it's obviously neither ISO nor ANSI. […]

The physical layout is standard winkeyless ANSI, though, isn't it? Maybe that was our ‘communication problem’…

seebart wrote: […]Have a look at my Apple AEK in our Alps appreciation thread, that's an even more extreme example.

Yeah, is that supposed to be Qwertz, but with a physical ANSI layout? And the Zenith ZKB-2 has probably the weirdest Enter key I have ever seen.

Lustique wrote:

Myoth wrote:

seebart wrote: No, your right but the joke is it's obviously neither ISO nor ANSI. Have a look at my Apple AEK in our Alps appreciation thread, that's an even more extreme example.

Could you please link it ? I know there is a search engine, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it

My guess is seebart means this thread here.

EDIT: The AEK II, I assume (4th post from the top).

I saw that AEK but I was talking about the symbols only one. I mean, this is ANSI-DE but is it symbols only ?

seebart wrote:A bit like on my symbols only M0115 layout.

Also about, that :

Lustique wrote:

seebart wrote: […]
I like this layout with the dual "Z" and "Y" and secondary symbols on the top row. Also ANSI enter and large left shift, this is what ISO should always look like. A bit like on my symbols only M0115 layout.[…]

How is that ISO? Or am I missing the sarcasm?

I think he was talking about how ANSI is superior to ISO, thus ANSI-CZ being how ISO-CZ should have always been like that (?)

Lol xD

Lustique and Myoth were like "I guess he was talking about...", "I think he was talking about..."
and the shortest and clearer answer given by Seebart was like please use the search function of the forum (implying I made something clear in the past, or someone made something clear in the past).

Actually which search is more effective?
Google site:deskthority.net
or the DT built-in search engine?

Perhaps Google is way faster for keyword search but DT's built-in search will be more precise about what one is looking for.

Menuhin wrote: Lol xD

Lustique and Myoth were like "I guess he was talking about...", "I think he was talking about..."
and the shortest and clearer answer given by Seebart was like please use the search function of the forum (implying I made something clear in the past, or someone made something clear in the past).

Actually which search is more effective?
Google site:deskthority.net
or the DT built-in search engine?

Perhaps Google is way faster for keyword search but DT's built-in search will be more precise about what one is looking for.

I did use DT's built-in search, and I guess Myoth did too…

Lustique wrote:

Myoth wrote:

seebart wrote: No, your right but the joke is it's obviously neither ISO nor ANSI. Have a look at my Apple AEK in our Alps appreciation thread, that's an even more extreme example.

Could you please link it ? I know there is a search engine, I tried searching for it but couldn't find it

My guess is seebart means this thread here.

EDIT: The AEK II, I assume (4th post from the top).

Jeez, I did write "in our Alps appreciation thread":

keyboards-f2/alps-appreciation-t12915-1800.html

Myoth wrote: I think he was talking about how ANSI is superior to ISO, thus ANSI-CZ being how ISO-CZ should have always been like that (?)

No, I prefer ANSI ti ISO anyway but what I was talking about is this AEK layout with the horizontal enter amongt other oddities for an "ISO" keyboard. Actually the AEK layout is even more strange than the Dell.

seebart wrote:

Lustique wrote: My guess is seebart means this thread here.

EDIT: The AEK II, I assume (4th post from the top).

Jeez, I did write "in our Alps appreciation thread":

keyboards-f2/alps-appreciation-t12915-1800.html […]

That's exactly my second link.

Lustique wrote:

seebart wrote:

Lustique wrote: My guess is seebart means this thread here.

EDIT: The AEK II, I assume (4th post from the top).

Jeez, I did write "in our Alps appreciation thread":

keyboards-f2/alps-appreciation-t12915-1800.html […]

That's exactly my second link.

Great thanks. Except it's an AEK not AEK 2!

Close enough 乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ (probably not, but Alps (boards) are a mystery to me)

EDIT: Another link for Myoth from [wiki]Apple Extended Keyboard[/wiki].

Lustique wrote: Close enough 乁| ･ 〰 ･ |ㄏ (probably not, but Alps (boards) are a mystery to me)

EDIT: Another link for Myoth from [wiki]Apple Extended Keyboard[/wiki].

Right, that's our wiki page for the M0115 the AEK 1, which is different to the much more popular AEK2. My point was that this layout on my AEK 1 is highly unusual. It's not ANSI, it's not really ISO although Apple shipped that for the German market and as you can see it does have "Ü, Ö and Ä". The Czech QWERTZ on the Dell is not unusual at all.

But then where is this keyboard ? because that's the one i'm searching for ! Is it the QWERTZ AEK ?

seebart wrote: my symbols only M0115 layout.

Myoth wrote: But then where is this keyboard ? because that's the one i'm searching for ! Is it the QWERTZ AEK ?

seebart wrote: my symbols only M0115 layout.

WOT? What do you mean "where is it"? It's here in a box with my other Alps keyboards. In the wiki? It has not been added.

No i mean in the Alps Appreciation post, where is the all symbolic M0115 ? or do you have a picture ?

Actually I did add it to the Apple Extended Keyboard wiki page on July 10th.

10:14, 10 July 2017‎ Seebart (Talk | contribs)‎ . . (3,794 bytes) (+280)‎ . . (Adding the M0115D - German Model with "symbol layout")

wiki/Apple_Extended_Keyboard

Myoth wrote: No i mean in the Alps Appreciation post, where is the all symbolic M0115 ? or do you have a picture ?

Not sure what you mean? What I meant is that my AEK layout only has symbols vs. words on the fuction keys. The picture is right here 6 posts above.

I bleached the top case and spacebar for now, came out pretty nice. Seems to me the spacebar is still a bit dark. Shot outside in overcast conditions. No problems with the logo like you said E3E!