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Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 13:41
by kbdfr
ukerekais wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 13:25
Hello redditors […]
Based on prima facie evidence I put it to you this is SPAM, dear brand new DT member!

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 13:44
by Wodan
kbdfr wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 13:41
Based on prima facie evidence I put it to you this is SPAM, dear brand new DT member!
Dear Discord Admin,
why judge people so quickly based on a small typo in their sincere contribution to this wonderful subreddit?

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 14:29
by Lalaland124
Spam efficiency: 0

Humour: 100

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 15:47
by raoulduke-esq
Wodan wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 13:44
Dear Discord Admin,
why judge people so quickly based on a small typo in their sincere contribution to this wonderful subreddit?
Spammers are welcome in the DT Discord- just not shuckers/scalpers.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 21:43
by ifohancroft
Since this is spam anyway, I'll just hijack the thread to ask - what is meant by a mechanical mouse? I am confused about the mechanical part in the designation. If it uses optical switches, does it still count as a mechanical?

[Edit] To answer my own question:

1. Apparently, other regulars on here are confused by the 'mechanical' part as well:
Muirium wrote:
25 Jan 2022, 13:50
Why are so many numpties asking for "mechanical mice" on Reddit, anyway? Are theirs too "mushy?" Dread to think quite how they got that way… :lol:
2. According to another spammer in this sub-forum, apparently mechanical mice is meant as in mice who use a ball for moving:
sirikonta wrote:
22 Jan 2022, 08:19
I know mechanical mice(the ones with the rubber ball inside) are ancient history.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 27 Jan 2022, 21:58
by Muirium
The vile idea has gotten its hooks into you! (Or should I say spike proteins?) The spammer has a nose for clickbait, which is fuelled by impalpable FOMO the like of this.

There is no such thing as a non-mechanical mouse. Certainly not in the sense that people are missing out on a golden age of “good” mice which came before. There is no 80s IBM Model F of mice compared to the domes over membrane of (not even) today. There is no scourge of chiclet mice. They’re honestly better now than any time last century.

Clickbait. This is just that.

(Anticipating someone posting a history lesson re: the cost of Douglas Engelbart’s bespoke prototypes, but don’t pretend you don’t get what I mean!)

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 00:40
by KeebMeUp
raoulduke-esq wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 15:47
Spammers are welcome in the DT Discord- just not shuckers/scalpers.
Oh no! You might as well excommunicate the person who makes the Keymacs keyboards from the community too, since they offer prebuilts with loose SKCM switches that have been "shucked" from boards, and then upcharges them for more than they got them for like a "scalper" would.

Example:

Cost of Prebuilt Keymacs + 88 Matias switches: 1388 euros

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Cost Prebuilt Keymacs + 88 SKCM Brown switches: 1888 euros

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Cost of 88 SKCM Brown switches: 500 euros

Get your pitchforks out everyone! Time to ban everyone who has ever "shucked" a keyboard for its switches or has "scalped" Alps switches for more than they paid for them. /s

You and these other folks that peddle this nonsense about "shucking" and "scalping" are so cringeworthy its unreal. Get real and get over yourself.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 01:33
by Rayndalf
Muirium wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 21:58
There is no such thing as a non-mechanical mouse. Certainly not in the sense that people are missing out on a golden age of “good” mice which came before. There is no 80s IBM Model F of mice compared to the domes over membrane of (not even) today. There is no scourge of chiclet mice. They’re honestly better now than any time last century.
For conventional mice I agree. Older trackballs have a certain special something though.
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Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 01:34
by Mandarbmax
Andj coming in with a supremely based take here. I'm impressed. I may have misjudged you.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 01:45
by zrrion
Andj can you hand make me some double shot keycaps pls? I'll unban you from the discord

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 01:47
by ifohancroft
Muirium wrote:
27 Jan 2022, 21:58
They’re honestly better now than any time last century.
I completely agree!
A friend of mine really likes old IBM mice though (he's actually a member here as well) and I must say, they do look good (those with the two sticking out gray buttons).

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 01:55
by KeebMeUp
Rayndalf wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 01:33
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did your cat take a bite out of your keyboard lol

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 02:24
by KeebMeUp
zrrion wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 01:45
Andj can you hand make me some double shot keycaps pls? I'll unban you from the discord
Those doubleshots are great. Maybe if you can make me some I'll unban you from my discord. :lol:

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 03:05
by zrrion
Would give me a chance to earn the ban properly

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 03:17
by KeebMeUp
zrrion wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 03:05
Would give me a chance to earn the ban properly
same. ironic, isn't it? :roll:

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 04:09
by andj00
I can't believe this name wasn't taken.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 04:12
by KeebMeUp
andj00 wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 04:09
I can't believe this name wasn't taken.
ill give you about tree fiddy

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 07:28
by Bjerrk
KeebMeUp wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 00:40
You and these other folks that peddle this nonsense about "shucking" and "scalping" are so cringeworthy its unreal. Get real and get over yourself.
I'd actually like to read a full exposition of your viewpoint. No snark, no sarcasm. Just an explanation of how you view this basic controversy and your own place in the keyboard community.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 08:14
by KeebMeUp
Bjerrk wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 07:28
I'd actually like to read a full exposition of your viewpoint. No snark, no sarcasm. Just an explanation of how you view this basic controversy and your own place in the keyboard community.
simple: i provide a service. its up to you if you want to pay for that service.

what is that service you might ask?

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it's not rocket science...

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:17
by Muirium
“Wooof those are pricey” is some quality consumer feedback, too! Many companies hire market research to work that out, but yours isn’t rocket science is it? :lol:

FWIW: I’m not fussed by your prices myself. Not my kind of product. Just calling it as I see it. ;)

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:28
by KeebMeUp
Muirium wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 09:17
“Wooof those are pricey” is some quality consumer feedback, too! Many companies hire market research to work that out, but yours isn’t rocket science is it? :lol:

FWIW: I’m not fussed by your prices myself. Not my kind of product. Just calling it as I see it. ;)
damn you really showed me.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:35
by Bjerrk
KeebMeUp wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 09:28
damn you really showed me.
You seem very defensive about it all. Not just in this thread, but overall. How come? What's the criticism usually directed against your business that's put you in this defensive mode?

(Some people in the retro computing community think of it as 'scalping' when one separates the original keyboard from the computer and sells it off separately. I wonder if there's a parallel there? [replace computer->keyboard and keyboard->switches])

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:42
by Muirium
Yup. Just kick back and take pride in your work, if you’re proud of it. Rolling around on the floor with your detractors ain’t a reassuring look! :D

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:48
by KeebMeUp
Ask the people who so desperately wish to mark me as some kind of a villain in this community every opportunity they get.

Maybe you'll get your answer. It's getting old.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:49
by KeebMeUp
Muirium wrote:
28 Jan 2022, 09:42
Yup. Just kick back and take pride in your work, if you’re proud of it. Rolling around on the floor with your detractors ain’t a reassuring look! :D
damn got me again.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:53
by zrrion
"i provide a service"
I'm going to start a service where I open people's mail so that they don't have to and when people get mad at me I'll simply tell them that I'm providing a service for people too lazy to open their own mail and therefore I'm immune to any criticism at all.

You're rent-seeking about keyboards and getting mad when people point out how shitty that is.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:54
by KeebMeUp
cool story bro. I'll keep doing what I do. keep doing what you do.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:55
by Muirium
Then do it, will ya? What’s the need to talk shit with us? Defensive much? You know what that tells everyone.

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:57
by andj00
If I don't religiously search for people I don't like discussing me and start shit about it I'll literally die

EDIT:
Main mouse: www.KeebMeUp.com
That's not my main mouse? what gives

Re: Best mechanical mouse you can recommend!

Posted: 28 Jan 2022, 09:58
by KeebMeUp
yeah I'm the one talking shit.

get a life.