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by Ellipse
11 minutes ago
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: I'm so mad at Ellipse
Replies: 3
Views: 115

Re: I'm so mad at Ellipse

Thanks for your feedback robo; I always like hearing these kinds of stories about how folks use these keyboards. Some people tell me they prefer to rotate around different types of keyboards, and many folks do only notice a big improvement when they compare something new with what they currently ...
by Ellipse
16 minutes ago
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: (SOLVED) Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use
Replies: 10
Views: 3229

Re: (SOLVED) Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use

Happy to hear that you fixed the issue! This was such an unusual error!

As I mentioned in the manual, on some keyboards the controller was not aligned correctly with the bottom inner assembly's ears and so it produced a short. The manual shows how you can push the controller back into place so that ...
by Ellipse
28 minutes ago
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Yes, quite a number of updates since then! Check out the dedicated beam spring project thread: https://deskthority.net/viewtopic.php?p=524241#p524241

Everyone please do check out the manual on the project web site as I am currently in progress of a major update, which has reorganized the setup ...
by Ellipse
33 minutes ago
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 887
Views: 3816495

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

It is not helpful to assume that folks will not receive their keyboards because of project delays, tariffs, etc.

The keyboards are all in production and will go out regardless of any tariffs. Production and assembly continue at full speed. Almost all of the several hundred thousand parts have been ...
by Ellipse
18 Apr 2025, 05:16
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: (SOLVED) Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use
Replies: 10
Views: 3229

Re: Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use

Phil_Goodman there should be no issues, regardless of how much it is used. If there is any issue, following the manual fully will result in a complete fix. As a last resort I can help, if you are willing to lose using the board for a month or so (shipping back and forth and QC time) but all I would ...
by Ellipse
18 Apr 2025, 05:10
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 887
Views: 3816495

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

That is something to consider but there are still VAT / other import taxes for Europe regarding goods sent from outside Europe. Since the goods are all made in China, my understanding is that they would be subject to the same duty, not any increased or reduced duty for made in US goods.

I am hoping ...
by Ellipse
15 Apr 2025, 05:02
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Please fill out the Google form linked below to reserve or request one of the possible new Model F designs (Split Ortho, Planck, Preonic, 6x12, F20, Kinesis Advantage, Unsaver, etc.). All of these designs may not be made, so in the Google form, please do feel free to request second choices and third ...
by Ellipse
15 Apr 2025, 00:31
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: (SOLVED) Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use
Replies: 10
Views: 3229

Re: Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use

As noted in the manual, intermittent issues are sometimes due to dust or debris inside the keyboard, if replacing the springs and correctly reinstalling them does not fix the issue. The quickest way to fix this issue permanently would be to remove the keys and replace the springs and flippers with ...
by Ellipse
13 Apr 2025, 21:23
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 887
Views: 3816495

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

Tariff update: as an update, the 8471 code (covering keyboards and other items) appears to have been temporarily exempted from the vast majority of the tariffs per the below update; currently this category remains subject to the 20% level, but not the 145% level: https://content.govdelivery.com ...
by Ellipse
13 Apr 2025, 20:33
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model F troubleshooting
Replies: 8
Views: 2603

Re: Model F troubleshooting

As I mentioned in the manual, the last step is to email me to discuss any issues that could not be resolved. The manual does not say that everything can be resolved without my help, but just that I am the last resort to get the keyboard set up and running.

The manual notes that you should discuss ...
by Ellipse
12 Apr 2025, 04:09
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model F troubleshooting
Replies: 8
Views: 2603

Re: Model F troubleshooting

My guess is that your spacebar wire needs to be bent even more, so much so that there is a 1mm or so gap for each of the 2 metal tabs between those tabs and the spacebar wire. I did not see a response indicating whether that was tried; my reading of your follow up reply indicates that you did not ...
by Ellipse
12 Apr 2025, 03:52
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: (SOLVED) Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use
Replies: 10
Views: 3229

Re: Model F104 Keyboard Randomly Typing \162cg After 2 Weeks of Use

I recommend reviewing the manual from beginning to end, as this specific issue of constantly pressed keys is addressed there. Everyone's first step should be reviewing the manual instead of posting about these kinds of errors as I feel that every error can be addressed by following all the steps in ...
by Ellipse
12 Apr 2025, 03:46
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: A timeline of IBM keyboard history
Replies: 4
Views: 955

Re: A timeline of IBM keyboard history

Very nice! I recommend adding links for each of your keyboard pages onto the timeline, so folks can directly click each timeline post to go see more details on your site about each featured keyboard. I see them for some timeline elements.
by Ellipse
09 Apr 2025, 19:49
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

With permission I am posting a great review and photos of the classic style F104 keyboard from last month:

"First of all, I cannot thank you enough for the time and effort you’ve put into designing and developing the Classic Style Model F keyboards. It’s truly a blessing for IBM and keyboard ...
by Ellipse
09 Apr 2025, 19:46
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 887
Views: 3816495

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

My personal expectation is that the tariffs will not be a problem by the time these keyboards are ready to ship later this year, so no one will be paying tariffs, since that time is several months away. The keyboards are not ready to ship, so no one should be worrying right now about months into the ...
by Ellipse
09 Apr 2025, 19:40
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model F troubleshooting
Replies: 8
Views: 2603

Re: Model F troubleshooting

"Since there are no spare springs included, I could not replace them. That's the only suggestion I have not yet tried."

This is not accurate - the manual notes you can definitely switch out springs with other working springs to see if the issue is due to the spring itself, but I agree that not ...
by Ellipse
09 Apr 2025, 03:09
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model F troubleshooting
Replies: 8
Views: 2603

Re: Model F troubleshooting

OreoCookie I recommend reading through the written manual from beginning to end, not just the hour-long setup video, as there are many recommended steps not that are not all shown in the video.

You may need to remove and re-seat or replace the shift and spacebar springs.

If the space bar gets ...
by Ellipse
09 Apr 2025, 02:56
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: new model f troubleshooting and delivery rant
Replies: 14
Views: 2966

Re: new model f troubleshooting and delivery rant

Yes, the troubleshooting steps are in the recently updated manual. Replacing the springs is one of the steps. Sometimes removing the keys and moving around the flippers by hand or with tweezers helps to dislodge some debris underneath the flipper that may have caused odd issues. A couple times I've ...
by Ellipse
09 Apr 2025, 02:48
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

All the zinc case boards use the same uncoated old style powdercoating. The textures vary with each keyboard but they are the same paint formulations; just the bumps are different.
by Ellipse
08 Apr 2025, 04:46
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Yes, as I mentioned over email, it is expected that the uncoated original style paint will wear where it is rubbed during contact. To keep the project's goal as a reproduction of the IBM originals, the paint has no glossy automotive style protective finish.

Several years ago I changed the paint ...
by Ellipse
08 Apr 2025, 04:34
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 887
Views: 3816495

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

Nothing just yet in terms of a new update. The factory is still working on those remaining parts (module assembly, case parts and top and bottom inner assembly plates) noted with last month's update; they are expected to take several months in total to complete. The expectation is still for these ...
by Ellipse
02 Apr 2025, 21:46
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Yes, please see a few posts up for updates on the F122, and see the beam spring project thread for the latest updates on the Round 2 beam spring project. Those posts are the latest updates. Were you looking for an update on another part of the project? Please let me know.

Please note that the ...
by Ellipse
31 Mar 2025, 10:44
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model f mods?
Replies: 3
Views: 1237

Re: Model f mods?

Interesting - please share photos! I guess you wanted to reduce a ringing sound?
by Ellipse
29 Mar 2025, 08:47
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model f mods?
Replies: 3
Views: 1237

Re: Model f mods?

Thanks for your feedback tswilson! Glad everything is up and running. Various sound mods have been gathered in the manual on the project web site appendix section. If anyone knows of any other recommended mods, please link to them or let us know!
by Ellipse
26 Mar 2025, 22:11
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: new model f troubleshooting and delivery rant
Replies: 14
Views: 2966

Re: new model f troubleshooting and delivery rant

That is not at all an accurate characterization of the required installation and setup process noted in the manual. A complete disassembly and inspection of hundreds of parts is not at all recommended or required.

The project philosophy has been quite clear over the past 5+ years, that the end ...
by Ellipse
24 Mar 2025, 20:19
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: new model f troubleshooting and delivery rant
Replies: 14
Views: 2966

Re: new model f troubleshooting and delivery rant

califool as we discussed over email, my apologies that USPS destroyed your packaging. Were you going to get back to me over email so I can replace for free any broken parts of your keyboard?

I can see by your post that you are trying to diagnose it yourself instead of following the manual fully ...
by Ellipse
11 Mar 2025, 05:45
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Repair Services for Model F (new)
Replies: 2
Views: 1593

Re: Repair Services for Model F (new)

It should take you under an hour to review the manual on the project web site to get an understanding of these great old style keyboards.

The flipper contacts the PCB (which sends the key signal to the computer) when no spring is installed, so what you describe is the expected behavior.

The manual ...
by Ellipse
11 Mar 2025, 05:39
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

A few folks periodically ask about making their Model F or Beam Spring keyboard wireless.

Has anyone tested with Model F or beam spring keyboards any products that make USB keyboards wireless?

Here's one I recently came across: https://handheldsci.com/kb/
by Ellipse
10 Mar 2025, 06:27
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9212
Views: 5038808

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

F122 production and assembly update:

The first half of the F122 keyboard batch has arrived and is now in stock!

Feel free to email me if your F122 shipping address has changed but please first do an email search for your F122 order confirmation email to confirm whether that shipping address is ...

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