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by Ellipse
Yesterday, 21:13
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Today the (long overdue) blog update has been posted. This gathers together the many updates posted on the forum project threads.

Brand New Model F June 2025 Update: user reviews and photos, F122 and beam spring production, new design plans (Split Ortho, Planck, Preonic, F20, Kinesis, etc ...
by Ellipse
Yesterday, 18:21
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

New as of June 2025: Mac Icons+Text 6 key set

By popular request - a set combining the Mac Icons and Mac Text key sets. This is a special order set that will arrive later this year, so you'd need to wait for delivery if combining shipping with a current order, or order separate shipping.

Feel ...
by Ellipse
14 Jun 2025, 02:13
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 927
Views: 3866409

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

Update on beam spring inner foam:

Everyone can now order an extra beam spring inner foam set at the below link, which has been updated today to add this item. Same as with the Round 1 beam spring first aid kit, extra inner foam was not a part of the kit as it was with Model F First Aid Kits, so it ...
by Ellipse
09 Jun 2025, 09:48
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Yes, as noted from the beginning of the project, all stepped keys are from Unicomp, including ISO enter and caps lock. Their color is slightly different from the original Model F key colors.

As a recap, the factory failed to produce these extra keys to my specifications and they did not function ...
by Ellipse
05 Jun 2025, 04:03
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Posting (with permission) a nice F77 setup. The photo was just sent to me today and was taken after a year of usage by a writer who is working on a novel!

This F77 has one of the most popular add-ons, the solenoid, which is installed inside the case.
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by Ellipse
05 Jun 2025, 03:44
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 927
Views: 3866409

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

Production update:

The factory has completed the lasering and bending of the B104 top and bottom inner assembly plates (shown below); the next step is the coatings to finish these parts.

After they are coated they expect to start assembly, as early as the next week or so. During the time of ...
by Ellipse
05 Jun 2025, 01:31
Forum: Keyboards
Topic: Model F Projects relegendable key stem colors...
Replies: 4
Views: 344

Re: Model F Projects relegendable key stem colors...

The stems for the new relegendables were sourced from Unicomp, which did not separate their stock by color. I did request all one color like the early Model M's but they were already mixed together.

Of course the relegendables are intended to work with the paper templates that will cover all ...
by Ellipse
04 Jun 2025, 03:14
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Posting (with permission) another great F122 setup.

This one is special as it has an old hi-fi Pioneer badge (for a cool retro styling) and Unicomp Esc and APL keys.
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by Ellipse
03 Jun 2025, 05:16
Forum: Gallery
Topic: Post your keyboard/keycaps!
Replies: 3580
Views: 1728834

Re: Post your keyboard/keycaps!

Thanks for the feedback; I have noted to try to keep tighter case margins for the forthcoming Model F designs. Since the cases may be 3d printed or laser cut, this may be easier to achieve.

It seems like most folks like the case margins to go about 1mm just over the bottom of the unpressed keys ...
by Ellipse
31 May 2025, 20:39
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Great news from Rico - split communication is now working on the Leyden Jar controllers!

Please see Rico's update post here and head over to the github pages linked below:

https://www.keebtalk.com/t/the-leyden-jar-a-tentative-pcb-replacement-for-the-brand-new-model-f-keyboards/17489/45
https ...
by Ellipse
31 May 2025, 04:27
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Check the leyden diganostic tool signal level monitor - maybe a key is being registered as pressed down.

Maybe the solenoid L bar itself needs adjustment as it's getting stuck. Does the cylinder move freely by hand and not get stuck? Are you seeing 6 to 9 volts where the solenoid is plugged in ...
by Ellipse
30 May 2025, 23:36
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

The solenoid should work by default without any configuration or keypress combinations. I recommend erasing the eeprom in the leyden jar tool and reflashing the firmware. Since the solenoid is able to fire, it may be an issue with your USB port (not enough power, USB hub, etc.). I recommend trying ...
by Ellipse
30 May 2025, 03:36
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

With permission I am sharing the first photo of the Hebrew English key set on the new F122!

There are a couple dozen available key sets and it is nice to see photos of some of the rarer key sets.

Hebrew English.jpg

thrillscience kindly see my replies below:

1. The issue is "the horizontal gap ...
by Ellipse
26 May 2025, 20:21
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Additional transparent relegendable template:

With permission I am reposting a transparent relegendable template:

credit to geekhack member Cyber_engineer – Twitter @Mates_ENGINEER

Very nice template!
by Ellipse
25 May 2025, 22:59
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Leyden Jar update and request for help:

So far over 130 F122's and their Leyden Jar controllers have shipped. After some firmware updates the reports are good so far!

Here are some plans for the Leyden Jar controller:

Need help - Split communication between halves, with one half powering the ...
by Ellipse
24 May 2025, 05:30
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Thanks; please keep the custom notes coming!


Project milestone - this week the 6,500th keyboard shipped, for the new Model F and Beam Spring keyboard projects! Who would have known that we would reach that when the project started and I was getting quotes to make 50 F62 and 50 F77 keyboards!
by Ellipse
23 May 2025, 09:17
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Thanks for sharing photos of your modded F122 Ordinary Witch!

I like the terminal-style customizations that remind me of the F122 originals.

Can folks please share what they do with the custom keys in Vial? To give people ideas on the possibilities. Are they macros? Key combinations? Do they open ...
by Ellipse
22 May 2025, 21:40
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards


The above keyboard with an IBM logo is mine.

I just wanted to provide a quick review.

I have been using PCs since the early 90s, got started on old IBM AT/XT stuff I found cheap at garage sales and such, loved systems from the 80s. 20 years in IT doing everything from programming to networks to ...
by Ellipse
22 May 2025, 02:11
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Posting (with permission) another nice F122 setup, customized with keys from various key groups on the Extra Keys store page.

This one features one of those third party IBM new production badges (I believe from eBay) that I do not offer. The spot on the keyboard is designed to fit the IBM F122 ...
by Ellipse
22 May 2025, 01:57
Forum: Group buys
Topic: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project
Replies: 927
Views: 3866409

Re: Beam Spring 104+SSK Reproduction Project! First Batch In Stock, Shipping early next year after New Model F Project

Thanks PeterQuines!

I'm not sure I understand your question. Are you asking if the F77 layout will be made for the beamsprings? Any layout is possible but the tooling costs would have to be covered. Since the BSSK is quite close to the F77, especially with the 3x5 cut out mod, I was not thinking ...
by Ellipse
19 May 2025, 22:54
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

The Leyden Jar firmware has just been updated (same link as my earlier post). Please let me know if there are any issues!

New updates from Rico:
The NKRO option works once more (click Fn+Space+N to enable as it is disabled by default for compatibility reasons)
2nd and 3rd layer shortcuts and ...
by Ellipse
16 May 2025, 20:41
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Yes, just order the keys not included in the US ANSI key set from the Extra Keys page and order the $39 layout customization if you want me to take care of it. Note ISO Enter, 2.25U left shift.
by Ellipse
15 May 2025, 10:07
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

tinydarkness the keys are available in pearl/pebble, Dark Gray, and Blue.

Iggy yes, with the layout customization check mark - you can note you want a shorter spacebar, regular spacebar, short left shift, full size left shift, ISO Enter, etc. Also don't forget to order the additional needed keys ...
by Ellipse
12 May 2025, 21:32
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Important F122 Leyden Jar firmware update to fix phantom key press issue for some keyboards, and other replies:

Nice customization tinydarkness! I like the use of Industrial SSK and terminal keys.

Confirmed, tracking emails are sent as soon as I have the tracking information.

Wow that is fast ...
by Ellipse
10 May 2025, 02:27
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Here is an interesting solenoid mod, along with a description. I do not know the long-term effects of this, so I cannot recommend it, but it is something to think about! This new F122 user wanted a much lower impact for the solenoid, even beyond the sound from the minimum throw length.

"I also ...
by Ellipse
09 May 2025, 21:55
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

And here is another one! This one is a dark gray F122. Posting with permission as per usual.
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by Ellipse
09 May 2025, 05:13
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

With permission I am sharing the second user image of the new F122 keyboards! This one includes some interesting keys from Unicomp, with legends I have not seen before.

F 122 - Copy.jpeg

Regarding the powdercoating, since folks from various years have noted their keyboards were perfect after ...
by Ellipse
08 May 2025, 02:09
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

With permission I am sharing the first user image of the new F122 keyboards! This one has the F13-F24, transparent relegendables, and blue cursor keys. The low serials are going out first (as always, orders can still be upgraded to skip the line through the low serial product page).

F122 - Copy ...
by Ellipse
07 May 2025, 10:16
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9292
Views: 5208821

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Very nice photos Arkku! I'm hoping to see more custom layouts like yours for Model F keyboards. The gray and blue are a nice combination.

I was reading about key rollover on your github project page linked below - a great read on the subject. I am aware that there are different ways to implement ...

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