deskthority

AloisiusFauxly wrote:in Chrome I can't use shift+key combos

Why can't you? Can't reach the keys or the keys don't do what you programmed them to do?

The geekhack version of this thread is much more about the keyboard, brainstorming thereabout, and programming thereof, than this thread--which has become a toxic massdrop witchhunt. I say keep the massdrop paranoia here, and go there if you actually want to participate in a productive discussion ...

That's the one! They had thought about sourcing components from McMaster-Carr, but ultimately the red ones seen in the photos are just generic rubber screw-caps from home depot or something.

I have only seen pictures on here. I didn't sign up for a MD account. As far as I am concerned, you are ordering ergodox with case with no legs.

Also, when I designed the case, I didn't account for conductivity with acrylic :-). Didn't need to. Now the same design is made with metal. I can't tell ...

One quick question: should I get the ErgoDox or rather the Kinesis Advantage?

I guess the main advantage of Kinesis is the ergonomic case, with the 'wells' for both hands. On the other hand, both ErgoDox halves can be aligned freely with any distance between them, but the halves themselves are ...

I'd sign up for DCS with legended qwerty alphabet + numbers. I think the rest are highly moveable and subject to relocation, so maybe DCS-row appropriate blanks for the rest of the keys on the board.

Also, this might be a completely stupid question, but: if we had enough orders, you think we could ...

Ergodox complete! Just put in the 100th order myself

Daniel wrote:Why didn't they use countersunk screws on this? The build in wristrest looks odd to me.

They used the design that litster provided them; as well, using screws that would lay flush with the surface would add machining cost to the case.

hoggy wrote:Saw this on kbdmania...

Personally, I'd take the dox hands-down over any keyboard with row staggering. I think that might be the top selling point of the board to me.

Speaking from experience, it's actually quite easy to update your order--you just go to Payment History and every unit you've committed to purchasing appears there, and can be edited individually. I tried this out after deciding that I wanted to go with the Full-Hand route instead of the Classic ...

I didn't know Massdrop was going to run this. I put in an order myself today. We can definitely work something out for these kits. Pricing will be higher than a normal set due to the number of 1.5 keys needed. When we order in normal 104 key sets, so one of these sets would use up 6 sets worth of ...

The buy has opened.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/ergodox

7bit wrote: Can't we just run this without massdrop?

You absolutely can; Massdrop is by no means compulsory. However, if you want a potenially-$199 potentially-tomorrow option, it will potentially do this for you, if you choose to use it.

Massdrop has posted up a blog entry about the Ergodox. Some highlights:

• Start date for the buy
• Case material options
• Shipping rates & details
• Price details

Also it seems someone there has been reading the thread, as this blog entry would appear to be addressing webwit directly.

Damn! Nice work, Aloisius. Are you going to keep the fun foam base, or are you planning on getting a case for it? I can ask for a case-only option for you for the buy, if you like. Apparently they're supposed to scale well in production, so hopefully it'd be far cheaper than getting it on your own.

Any updates?

Given that it's now January, in theory the Massdrop might be starting soon according to their estimate from December. It probably depends on their own parts orders for the prototype they were making. I've been getting excited/antsy myself, so I'll ping them to see where they're at ...

webwit wrote:You cannot change the individual finger staggering

ErgoDox v2: per-finger PCBs?

there are 4 holes where you could screw in legs like the ones you get with KMACs.

I brought the idea of adding KMAC legs to Massdrop, and they're interested in adding them to the buy; in fact given the scarcity/difficulty of obtaining korean boards, they're planning on a sourcing trip to Korea. I ...

ask them to do a prototype of the case.

They're doing this now, I believe. I would assume that it's the prototype, as well as the changes to their site, that are setting this so far out, rather than starting it sooner/now.

As for the legs, I'm not sure--did the designs you gave them include the ...

Hey all--I heard back from the Massdrop guys again today. Right now, it's looking like the Ergodox buy will be ready to go in January, and will probably run for about a month.

Also, because 3D printing doesn't scale well Massdrop will be offering only litster-style cases, although they will offer ...

The first three of the Dox cases highlight the difference in the tenting and inclination from Dox's original designs. These are on ergodox.org. According to the description below the image, the fourth option (which shows the dox case from above) is meant to indicate interest in the dox case in ...

I think it may be easier to split this down the middle, geekhack to a US group buy, deskthority do a group buy. Before this implodes on itself. Bringing in 3rd parties to handle this better than ourselves is never going to work or provide as much value.

Alternatively, split it down the middle ...

Also: they've made a separate poll for the case type. I don't believe this will be a winner-take-all thing, but rather just for them to gauge who wants what so they can shop the orders accordingly. I believe everyone will be able to get the case they want.

Hey all! I heard back from Massdrop yesterday, and they have the poll set up for us . Please drop by and and make an account to let them know what you'd like out of the Ergodox, be it the full kit, the PCB alone, or the PCB + Case, etc. This will help them work out price break information.

Thanks ...

I've been pretty silent with this for a while, and I apologize--I'm working with Massdrop on getting the polls set up, but I want to get all the bases covered before I start shopping links around to direct everyone there. They had a good prototype poll set up, but it was missing a crucial option for ...

Hi all,

I bungled the communication with Massdrop concerning the requirement that people be able to omit certain components from the process (in short, the pcb-only case). After clarifying with them, it has changed the way they would facilitate things on their end:

We can set it up so that people ...

I just heard back from Massdrop about their overhead. I've pasted it here in its entirety to avoid any mistakes or miscommunications I might make in trying to paraphrase.

It should be noted that I volunteered shapeways in my initial contact to them, simply because it's where the prototypes were ...

Vierax wrote:it's not the only company to offer this kind of service

If you have others in mind, simply name them and I will weigh them against Massdrop and any others that surface. I'm not married to Massdrop; they just seem like the best choice at the moment.

I don't know how much Massdrop takes for their service (5% ? 10%?) but I think it's a thing to check before starting.

Their financials aren't anywhere in their About, their FAQ, or their Terms of Service, and with good reason; I wouldn't expect them to readily show us the secret sauce anyway ...

webwit wrote:That argument can go any way. Massdrop can go tits up just after being handed $20-30k.

Similar to JesuswasaZombie's point, ask people involved in changdrew's taobao or imsto buys how easy it is to get your money back from a community figure if the buy falls through.