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Fuses are done as well.
I tried your bootloader that was provided and another that I found, but same problem.
I might try the firmware flashing and see what happens.

I have loaded the components onto 5 boards so far and this is the first one I have wired up to test. After the bootloader flashed no ...

So close to finishing my first board with one of these and got device descriptor failed error no matter what I do.
All troubleshooting I have done hasn't cleared up what my issue actually is. Not sure if its the board itself, or my USB cable being bad. :(
Nothing obvious showing up.

Ideas?

I had ...

Edit: Screw it, I'm in! Just went for base+mods and will have to pass on the colour kit for now :(
I don't know if it's a comfort or not, but there will probably be another round to spend your money on eventually!

Lol, yeh that is pretty much my thoughts. Can probably justify it to myself to ...

All good, just trying to see what can be done.
I want to support it, as it is an awesome set but at the same time I have spent way too much on keyboard related stuff recently, lol. (Putting together my new Whitefox as I try make a decision on these caps :D)

Edit: Screw it, I'm in! Just went for ...

I saw someone else suggest this on Massdrop. To use novelties or blanks to fill the missing tab+caps from the colour set for a 60%, but I don't think that is possible as novelties only has a 1.75u r2/3, smalls have 1.5u r2/3 and bigs only has 1.75u r2/3 right?

Ugh, frustrating trying to figure out ...

Lord Matt3o PUBH, please bless your most faithful and loyal 60%ers with a Two Piece 'tab' and 'caps lock' kit, so we can bathe in the goodness of base + colour kit builds; without polluting our orders with the accursed TKL modifier heresy.

Or, Lord, guide the two missing caps of 60% Matt3o to Your ...

at the very end we'll see how each kit performed. Based on that we'll evaluate what keys could be added. The set performed relatively well, but the sub-kits didn't sell that much, ie: people mainly bought the base kits.

Fair enough, guess I'll have to hold out until the end and then make a ...

Just saw the added kits of blanks. Plus a couple of other modifications, very nice additions.

But, is this all the added keys there are going to be?
(I'm still holding my breath for RGB/CMY tab+caps)

Awesome.

Which sets make up the major sets group?
I'm assuming its the base + 2 mod colour groups?

@Matt3o: I was scrolling through the comments on Massdrop and noticed someone pointed out that there was no ISO support for the RGB/CMY sets either.
So had me thinking, would it be possible to do a Tab/Caps Lock/ISO Enter RGB/CMY kit instead of trying to fit more into the current kits?
I don't ...

@Matt3o: I was scrolling through the comments on Massdrop and noticed someone pointed out that there was no ISO support for the RGB/CMY sets either.
So had me thinking, would it be possible to do a Tab/Caps Lock/ISO Enter RGB/CMY kit instead of trying to fit more into the current kits?
I don't know ...

@Matt3o: I don't know if anything can be done/adjusted, but I would really hope that a caps lock + tab could be added to the RGB/CMY set?

the RGB/CMY kits are the most expensive to produce and we did this madness of offering 2 bottom row options. We already lowered the cost to the minimum to make ...

This set is so nice, so good job on that Matt3o + everyone else who has contributed.

So I'm looking at the possibility of putting base + RGB/CMY kit for my 60% but its missing caps lock and tab. I don't like the idea of having to spend $40-50 on 2 keys and it seems a little odd to have a caps/tab ...

I think we are kind of at a waiting point for Matt3o to have the time required to organise this.

The elf board ic is more expensive than the atmel/microchip alternative but i was able to find it for like US$2.28 at +100pcs which isn't awful.
If cost was the largest motivating factor going into the elf board, they chose the wrong chip.

The forum thread would be best way to follow I guess? It's ...

Oh yeah, this was done before the button change. Forgot to update, but still gives a reasonable price guide.

Here is a list to compare to that I did up a couple of weeks ago. Prices could be a little different now(but in general can be used a price guide).
These are the quantities I would be buying for a 200pc run being put together for me locally(Aus).
If you are looking at pcbway, do costing based on ...

I kind of see them as different markets.
Keytee is ultra low cost for limited purposes(especially when Trebb was willing to send me a couple of boards).
Also requires more user knowledge and is harder to work with.
Total cost to me is going to be <US$4 ea for 5pcs.
The elf board is a catch all ...

Awesome, thanks.

For some reason I thought they looked smaller than 0402, but thats good to know.
I have access to a lot of 0402 parts.

Just about to order parts and I just wanted to make sure.
What were the package sizes used for resistors/capacitors/crystal?

Looks great.
I would suggest you look at doing the panelising yourself, so its done right.
Especially since you have pads all the way around the edge you want to be safe.

For panelising, look at doing it with breakaway tabs.
I think something like larger tabs around usb and clear section opposite ...

Just received my Keetee pcbs. Thanks so much for sending them.
I will update once I finish my project with them.

Image quality is absolute arse as my phone's camera wouldn't focus.
But you can see how they did it, they increased the pad size on the outside of each hole(same footprint top and bottom) but SMD is only top side, so all solder it picked up from top side pads.
Even on these boards, we have seen a ...

Yeh saw that. That might work well enough. I'll try get the photo of the board on Monday to show you what they did.
I work with SMT assembly in my job and showed your board layout to the design engineer at work who does our PCB design and he also didn't think there would be enough surface area for ...

On the USB connector feet through holes, I think you will want to increase the pad size on the top side of the board to pick up enough solder during SMT.

I have an Atmel board at work I was going to show as an example, but forgot to take a photo of it. Will try and remember Monday.

Thats fair enough.

I think 1 button is OK then. 2 isn't necessary.
Since its USB powered, just unplug the cable for reset.

Edit:
For the reset though, just leave the pads as is(and don't load) or change to through hole to allow anyone to add a button or w/e if they wish to.

Just remember for a BOM cost of ~US$3.7ea@200pcs(components only), that a button at $0.5 although it looks cheap is +13% of the total component cost for a single part that I would argue is non-essential.
It is also at least another $100 that Matt3o will have to put down when purchasing.

If its a ...

Hi, really like the design and am interested in getting hold of 1 if you still have any left.
Sent you a PM as well.