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Cherry G81-3054HAQ (Greek ANSI doubleshots)

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 14:17
by photekq
Got this yesterday. Huge thank you to kbdfr posting it in the great finds thread :) The keycaps are like-new with no shine at all, so I'm very happy with it.

It's just a regular ANSI G81, but the keycaps are really quite interesting. The Greek sub-legends are actually part of the doubleshot (the proof is in the macros). They're not pad printed, unlike most other Cherry doubleshot keys with sub-legends (3000HAV, etc.)

All photos (and extra macros of all Greek keys) in full resolution can be seen here : https://www.flickr.com/photos/115722906@N08/

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A few extra photos with brighter, clearer light. Terrible background/composition since I had to take these on my windowsill :lol:
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Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 22:23
by chzel
The keycaps are probably more interesting than you might think.
It is basically a Greek layout with a twist, the sub-legend of "W" should be "ς" (lower-case in word-final position sigma).
Instead it's a letter that is not in the Greek alphabet, but appears in the Turkish alphabet.
So this is probably a version just for Cyprus, half of which is under Turkish occupation since 1974.
Great find!

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 22:46
by photekq
chzel wrote: The keycaps are probably more interesting than you might think.
It is basically a Greek layout with a twist, the sub-legend of "W" should be "ς" (lower-case in word-final position sigma).
Instead it's a letter that is not in the Greek alphabet, but appears in the Turkish alphabet.
So this is probably a version just for Cyprus, half of which is under Turkish occupation since 1974.
Great find!
Oh, well spotted! This was bought from Cyprus, so I think you're right!

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 22:52
by Muirium
Indeed. Wouldn't surprise me if the Greek half of Cyprus has a local layout. Although there's many more Turkish characters to cover than just that! It's one of the curliest and diacritically busy of all the Latin scripts!

What would surprise me, though, is if Turkish Cyprus uses the same layout. They aren't Greek Cypriots under Turkish occupation up there in the north, they are Turkish too.

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 23:03
by Daniel Beardsmore
The 'Q' in "HAQ" means Greek ANSI, according to [wiki]Cherry article numbers[/wiki] — I guess Cherry used 'Q' for both.

Posted: 23 Jul 2014, 23:18
by chzel
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: The 'Q' in "HAQ" means Greek ANSI, according to [wiki]Cherry article numbers[/wiki] — I guess Cherry used 'Q' for both.
Forgot to check the wiki!
If that particular layout ended up in Greece, it would cause a bit of head-scratching! :lol: The letter in the sub-legend does not exist in the Greek alphabet!

Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 01:11
by IvanIvanovich
Perhaps Cherry was simply being lazy (recycled some tooling) and/or not paying attention that ς (sigma-final, which is what appears proper on the same key) is not ç (cedilla/cédille). They do look kind of similar if you're not looking close.

Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 03:58
by Muirium
Very plausible. In fact, more so than the idea that any kind of Turkish support would only take one extra cap!

Posted: 24 Jul 2014, 04:13
by photekq
Daniel Beardsmore wrote: The 'Q' in "HAQ" means Greek ANSI, according to [wiki]Cherry article numbers[/wiki] — I guess Cherry used 'Q' for both.
Actually, it was me who added that. I added it when I saw the eBay listing, since there was nothing under Q :?