75g Clickiez first impressions

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CaesarAZealad

29 Apr 2022, 16:45

Cross post from GH, but I feel this needs to be here as well :)

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Build Name: Model C
Switches: ZealPC Clickiez 75g in clicky mode (Tactile mode in ESC and soon enough, the entire F row)
Keycaps: MT3 Dev/tty/
Chassis: NCR 80 Hot Swap
Plate: Carbon Fiber
Mount: Tray mount
TL;DR: Now this is tactility!

I've been waiting for these switches for 2 years now. I'm a bit of a Zeal simp, I'll admit it. When I was completely new to this hobby I bought a GMMK and an order of the fabled Zealios switches I'd heard so much about on r/mk. After mutilating 100 or so switches that collectively cost more than the board they were going into, I sat down to type for the first time on what I thought at the time was some far off and obscure switch only the deepest in the hobby knew about. From the first keypress I was in love. The tactility hit a sweet spot in my brain. It scratched an itch, sated a hunger, it slammed directly into the proverbial sweet spot of my brain that craved tactility.
I immediately found the Zeal discord to gush about these absolute peak switches. After giving Zeal a thorough ego stroking, I stuck around for just long enough to be there for the announcement of a brand new type of switch. A type of Zeal switch that would lead to a 2 year long wait with bated breath as the release day was pushed and pushed until they finally were dropped on Christmas day of last year.
I slammed into the GB as fast as humanly possible, fast enough to be the first one to order the brand new switches.
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And we come to last Monday, I'm sitting in my college dorm when I get a delivery notification for ZealPC telling me my switches were waiting for me back at home. 4 days of frothing at the mouth in anticipation and a day of constant use and experimenting and we come to today.
To actually talk about the switches, they're an interesting beast. The click leaf of an Alps switch combined with the compatibility afforded by MX designs. I have to say, it didn't disappoint. The click on the switch is an immediate drop, not unlike Amber Alps. It's crisp, defined, and on the 75g switches it makes your keyboard sound like some kind of massive war being fought with exclusively industrial staple guns. The click on the heavier switches gives off a nice, bassy click that puts even some Alps switches to shame. If I had all the money in the world I would get a Keymacks board with Amber Alps and pit it against these 75g Clickiez for what would most definitely be the ultimate clicky showdown. It's not all happy times and titties though. The click on the 75g weighting feels, for lack of a better word, clunky. As a man who is lucky enough to have an Amber alps board on his shelf as we speak (or... type that is) I can compare them side by side.
First things first: The tactility of Ambers pales in comparison to Clickiez. Alps feel almost like a light clicky switch akin to box Whites when put next to the Clickiez 75g variant. When put next to the 40g variant the comparison is a little more fair, but the clickiez are still notably more tactile, though not as much as with Ambers Vs 75g Clickiez. If I ever get my hands on some fingerbreaker Alps I'll make sure to do a comparison, but for now these are by far the most tactile switch ever. That's right, I said switch, not clicky switch, because oh boy these things have 3 modes baby!

Let's get this out of the way first. Clickiez in tactile mode are NOTHING LIKE TACTILE ALPS. The tactile clickiez are essentially binary. No joke. Now don't get me wrong that's not a bad thing, it's a very nice form of tactility, but it is so intense that there is only 2 positions in tactile mode: 1.) Not pressed 2.) Bottomed out. In tactile mode they are quite possibly the most clacky switch I've even heard. It reminds me of that youtube video where someone makes an entire keyboard out of rotary encoder knobs, both in tactility and sound. It's quite pleasant. Now would I recommend modding a board with entirely 75g Tactile Clickiez? Heck no! I may be a bit of a lunatic daily driving the 75g variant of these switches, but even I have my limits! However I would most definitely recommend putting them in switches you don't want to hit such as CAPSLOCK, ESC, and other switches that you almost never press intentionally. I once said that tactile Alps switches were like having the tactile event in concert with the actuation of the switch, and this is not that.

Getting the most out of your switches:
Let's be real, these things cost A LOT. You're going to want to make sure the switches are as good as they can get.
First off: Lube. You don't need it. Using these switches you barely notice any scratch past the massive clicky event.
Secondly, you're going to want to have a nice roomy chassis. I went with the NCR80 for my build, but I'd reccomend taking a vintage MX compatable board, stripping out the lame MX Black switches (Because they always have MX Blacks >:( ) and slapping in your new clickiez. Then, bada-BINGUS you've got yourself a spicy keyboard. The higher the profile keycaps the better, and PBT is going to bring out the bass. Again this is all subjective, but it's what in my personal experience brings out the strengths in these switches.

Now time for the rating, because all of you love ratings
8/10 New daily driver, most definitely.

I would put sound tests, but I have no clue how to do that on here. Anyone willing to inform me will be rewarded with the sweet sound of clicky clacks!

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LambdaCore

29 Apr 2022, 18:48

How you describe them tactile sounds kinda fun, if not maybe a bit excessive. Sounds like that's gotta get exhausting to type on after while!

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TheInverseKey

29 Apr 2022, 19:54

I made a video comparing the sound to Alps and also the history of the switches. The switches overall are not the same compared to Alps but maybe in the future, there may be other click leaves that could be developed. I touched on different click leaves that can be used in this video:

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CaesarAZealad

29 Apr 2022, 20:40

LambdaCore wrote: 29 Apr 2022, 18:48 How you describe them tactile sounds kinda fun, if not maybe a bit excessive. Sounds like that's gotta get exhausting to type on after while!
When I say it's binary, I mean it's binary :P
It's an immediate thing, but extremely satisfying. I'd compare it to a light switch or a rotary knob when you press it down, but the tactility is more defined. A really nice bump, different from any other MX tactile design I've tried. Give me a minute and I'll record a video for you :)
TheInverseKey wrote: 29 Apr 2022, 19:54 I made a video comparing the sound to Alps and also the history of the switches. The switches overall are not the same compared to Alps but maybe in the future, there may be other click leaves that could be developed. I touched on different click leaves that can be used in this video:
Yeah I remember seeing you on the discord talking about using different click leaves. I personally think that this switch is a great innovation in keyboards as we know it. If third party switches begin to be made then we can get some really crazy stuff! I'll make sure to give that video a watch, it sounds really cool :D

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CaesarAZealad

29 Apr 2022, 20:50

LambdaCore wrote: 29 Apr 2022, 18:48 How you describe them tactile sounds kinda fun, if not maybe a bit excessive. Sounds like that's gotta get exhausting to type on after while!
https://youtube.com/shorts/m4wUdL429zo?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/bfQxsHmZB9c?feature=share
Here you go! Please ignore the fact my desk is a mess I'm currently lubing switches... not with the mustard, I kinda forgot I had that there (Bought groceries today :P)

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LambdaCore

29 Apr 2022, 21:54

CaesarAZealad wrote: 29 Apr 2022, 20:50
LambdaCore wrote: 29 Apr 2022, 18:48 How you describe them tactile sounds kinda fun, if not maybe a bit excessive. Sounds like that's gotta get exhausting to type on after while!
https://youtube.com/shorts/m4wUdL429zo?feature=share
https://youtube.com/shorts/bfQxsHmZB9c?feature=share
Here you go! Please ignore the fact my desk is a mess I'm currently lubing switches... not with the mustard, I kinda forgot I had that there (Bought groceries today :P)
Not gonna lie that looks exhausting for typing but also extremely satisfying! If I did something like this, I might do something ala variable weight realforces and stick it on some keys I don't want to accidentally press or rarely used keys (e.g. esc, function keys or even a heavier more tactile spacebar)

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Eszett

09 Jul 2022, 19:06

I've now typed for some time on 40g clickiez (what a dumb name for a switch btw., and how to form the singular of it even? but ok, let's ignore that) and they are really extreme ... in tactiliy. Remotely reminds me to Kailh Box Navy switches. This is definetily not something for gamers. There is so much tactility going on that it's almost too much for me, and I grew up in the 80ies with an IBM Model M, which has serious tactility as well. Almost immediately I felt the urge to replace the clickiez that are not my alphas by something more calm and more linear, as this 'thock' feeling with it's strong resistance in keys like space, backspace, esc, etc. was irritating to me. So I finally decided to use Holy Pandas for everything else than the alphas on my keyboard. And the Holy Pandas feel really like linears in comparision to the Clickiez. Seriously. Anyway, the combination of both clickiez (for the alphas) and holy pandas (for the rest), feels pretty nice to me. If I had known this before, I could have saved quite some money, as the alphas are only about 30 pieces in number, that is rather affordable than 60 clickiez I bought. So you might consider this too to save a buck. A Clickiez switch on the a Mod key or space bar even is seriously strange and irritating, but on the alphas it's wow. Are they the best switches I typed on? No, I think SKCM Blue Alps are still outstanding and above, but they are pretty close, and in my top ten ranking for sure. I'm looking forward now to the presumably next hot shit in the pipeline, which are the Silo Beam Spring Switches by Haata. We'll see.

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