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PayPal (don't read if you don't want to get in bad mood)
Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 17:10
by 7bit
Please post here your PayPal trouble.
I wonder what happens when this thing goes to court.
The buyer must prove that the violin is forged (ie. not antique)!
It should be possible to find out how old it is.
But when the buyer got rid of it, he is in deep trouble ...
Result: I'm so glad not to have a PayPal account.
Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 18:41
by dirge
Who did I pay my Phantom order too then?

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 19:08
by Ekaros
Hmm, so what is police take on fraud in Germany? And I hope you have a job...
Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:02
by mintberryminuscrunch
Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:08
by litster
Wow, this is dumb, asking the buyer to destroy a perfectly good violin. This is what happens when customer service people follow a script.
But for a violin, $2,500 isn't a super duper vintage violin either. An entry level made-in-China student violin I bought was close to $2,000.
Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:17
by webwit
I used the eBay/paypal (same thing) Customer Protection program once. I bought a NIB item, on arrival it turned out to be clearly used. The seller denied that. So they tell me to ship it back, which I do. It's half way down the Atlantic to the US, when I get a message saying the item did not arrive and the seller confirmed he had not received it, so the case was closed. No money, no item, shipping was in progress, as visible in the tracking webpage. No more replies from eBay when I asked them if they lost their heads, except that the case was closed. Made my lawyer write up something pretty about criminal behavior and me going to the police to report a con operation, then mailed it every 5 minutes to a number of email addresses. Got my money back in 1 day.
Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:24
by 7bit
litster wrote:Wow, this is dumb, asking the buyer to destroy a perfectly good violin. This is what happens when customer service people follow a script.
But for a violin, $2,500 isn't a super duper vintage violin either. An entry level made-in-China student violin I bought was close to $2,000.
This happens when *** are in the government and *** are at P* and the buyer is super *** and

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They should have told the buyer to jump out of the window.

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:24
by byFd
when i ever will have a problem with ebay or paypal i'll take a lesson from webwit

Posted: 08 Feb 2012, 20:42
by gimpster
webwit wrote:I used the eBay/paypal (same thing) Customer Protection program once. I bought a NIB item, on arrival it turned out to be clearly used. The seller denied that. So they tell me to ship it back, which I do. It's half way down the Atlantic to the US, when I get a message saying the item did not arrive and the seller confirmed he had not received it, so the case was closed. No money, no item, shipping was in progress, as visible in the tracking webpage. No more replies from eBay when I asked them if they lost their heads, except that the case was closed. Made my lawyer write up something pretty about criminal behavior and me going to the police to report a con operation, then mailed it every 5 minutes to a number of email addresses. Got my money back in 1 day.
Where's the "Like" button for this post?

If PayPal is going to treat you like a criminal, then do the same in return, because that's what they are.