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Vivaldi (web browser)
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:11
by seebart
I'm giving this a try now, I never heard of it until now. I'll give a little feedback after a week or so.
https://vivaldi.com
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivaldi_(web_browser)
Hmm this part is always worth reading:
https://vivaldi.com/privacy/
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:19
by Muirium
Wikipedia wrote:License: Proprietary freeware with open-source components
What's the draw exactly? Isn't Firefox free enough for you? Sounds more open than this.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:20
by Nuum
Been using it since quite a while now, it's super nice. Similar to Opera 12, but based on Chrome.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:31
by seebart
Nuum wrote: Been using it since quite a while now, it's super nice. Similar to Opera 12, but based on Chrome.
Cool, thanks for the feedback.
Muirium wrote: What's the draw exactly? Isn't Firefox free enough for you? Sounds more open than this.
I don't use Firefox anymore, that's the draw. No need for stagnation. If you ask me Firefox is about as open source as Android is. Of course I'll catch flak for this but I don't care.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:37
by scottc
Wikipedia wrote:License: Proprietary freeware with open-source components
This is a deal-breaker for me. Shame.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:42
by ramnes
I'm using uzbl for now, but the browser has been unmaintained for a while now and is completely deprecated due to its use of WebKit 1...
Sadly I still didn't find a proper browser to replace it.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:44
by seebart
Unmaintained for a while is worse than proprietary freeware with open-source components IMO. But it's preference.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:44
by Muirium
Way back, I used to hop around between browsers too. Ones I spent several years using were Netscape, OmniWeb, Firefox, Camino and of course Safari. Tried out various versions of IE back in the day, too, along with oddballs like iCab and TenFourFox. Yes, even Chrome, now and then.
Never did feel really at home in any of them until OmniWeb supported Dropbox sync and Safari supported extensions. OmniWeb stagnated, alas, but Safari's come along nicely in recent years. Before I could Adblock with it, Apple's own browser wasn't much use to me, but ever since then it's become quite indispensable. The way they're using iCloud to keep sessions in sync across Macs and iPhones is fantastic.
If I was on some other platform, I'd run Firefox. And probably be keeping a keener eye on alternatives, because I never could love Firefox. Respect it, sure, but we were too awkward for each other!
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:46
by seebart
I'd figure you'd be a safari-only user Mu.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:46
by Muirium
Only in recent years. Ghostery makes it for me.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:53
by seebart
Before this goes any further I'd like to emphasise
I am not promoting this software in any way. And it's in BETA status. So just stick to whatever you're using now like Netscape navigator 1.0.

Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:55
by Muirium
NCSA Mosaic, 7bit Edition.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 18:57
by seebart
Muirium wrote: NCSA Mosaic, 7bit Edition.

Oh god the 7bit Edition! It uses dangerous permutation cycles. Could kill your system.

Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 19:02
by Muirium
The NSA can't believe they can't break it. The security is just 7 bits deep! But the obscurity is immeasurable.
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 19:07
by seebart
Muirium wrote: The NSA can't believe they can't break it. The security is just 7 bits deep! But the obscurity is immeasurable.
Right because it's cutting edge...
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 20:21
by gogusrl
Tried it, couldn't get the customization I wanted (addon compatibility problems). Still on Firefox which runs like shit (but my places.sql is almost 60mb from the last 10 years or so).
I need some "basic" functionally from a browser these days : vertical tabs, mouse gestures, link/image/text drag&drop, tab opening/closing rules (move to left/right on new tab/tab close, open next to current tab on gesture x or open in background on gesture y, etc).
my current addons
Posted: 25 Feb 2016, 20:25
by Muirium
I used to run a shit-ton of addons in Firefox, too. But when Google Browser Sync sunk, I changed browsers and began to get minimalist. Must have had 8-12 regulars in Firefox, like you, but not nowadays:

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Used to run a few
of these, but I've gotten too lazy to remember to actually use them!
Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 15:03
by sinusoid
ramnes wrote: I'm using uzbl for now, but the browser has been unmaintained for a while now and is completely deprecated due to its use of WebKit 1...
Sadly I still didn't find a proper browser to replace it.
That's an interesting browser I didn't hear about! Thanks.
edit: [deleted]
Yeah, it is unmaintained...
http://www.uzbl.org/bugs/index.php?do=d ... ask_id=370
Also, this seems like an interesting project:
https://bitbucket.org/portix/dwb
Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 15:19
by andrewjoy
good replacement for UZBL
http://surf.suckless.org/
Posted: 11 Mar 2016, 17:05
by ramnes
They both still uses WebKit 1...
