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Request: Comparison of PC-AT and M

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 14:22
by Ludovician
Hello.

For those of you here who own both a Model F AT keyboard and a full-size Model M, do you have any pictures of the two together, for size comparison?

Thanks.

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 15:34
by seebart
check the links, I'm pretty sure those are correct. As you can see in my picture the full-size Model M is about an inch wider.

http://www.epiguru.com/2012/01/vintage- ... -for-sale/

http://www.engadget.com/products/ibm/model-m/specs/
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Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 15:42
by Ludovician
Thank you.

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 15:52
by seebart
no probs Ludovician. I don't ususally feel comfortable linking externally, especially engadget. So you plan on buying either of these nice keyboards? How available are these in Australia?

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 16:10
by Ludovician
Availability for both is abysmal. There are a few Model Ms floating around but the sellers are usually asking for high prices compared to what you can get them for in the US. I don't know about Europe, but you guys use those funny-lookin' ISO ones and I'm an ANSI guy.

Sellers usually try to sell Ms for about $120-$150 AUD. One guy at the moment has a couple for $90 + $30 shipping. Model Fs are nowhere to be found.

As for plans, I already have a Model M (January 1991, grey label, 1391401). I like it, and I intend to bolt-mod it once I figure out what I'm doing and get the tools together, and gather the courage to attempt it (because I don't know what I'm doing with tools).
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And yesterday I ordered a Model F AT from an Ebay seller in the US for $100 USD + shipping, which came to around $184 AUD. I intend to mod it to this layout. Let me know if you have any ideas for the left key cluster. I might just stick the F keys on there so I can use both, and compare. Here is the one I bought:
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It will need some love and care, obviously.

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 16:29
by seebart
Availability for both is abysmal.
that sucks, but you got two nice ones already. Those prices are insane. I'm sure you have found our Workshop area, you'll find several really good threads there:

http://deskthority.net/workshop-f7/ibm- ... it=madhias

Cheers

Posted: 03 Apr 2015, 16:34
by Ludovician
Yeah, of all the bolt mod guides I've seen, that one is my favourite. I intend to follow it, once I get around to it.