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Posted: 05 Mar 2016, 23:34
by Blaise170
Haha yeah can't complain too much I suppose.
These are usually white or blue Alps:
http://m.ebay.com/itm/Used-Tellervision ... nav=SEARCH
Posted: 05 Mar 2016, 23:43
by Tuntematon
E3E wrote:
DC-2014s are actually somewhat common in terms of blue Alps boards. You might see one or two every month or so. I thinking anything above $80 is a bit much for one, to be honest, especially if it's so deeply yellowed.

You're living in the past E3E! The market has spoken, at least for now.

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 00:05
by E3E
We're living in the age of Alps Inflation. xD I could make so much if I sold my collection, but heavens no. My keyboards are like my damn children. Would you sell your child?

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 00:09
by Redmaus
yes
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 00:12
by seebart
E3E wrote: Would you sell your child?


Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 00:13
by Tuntematon
Has any keyboard economist out there identified the cause of the inflation? Supply has been stable, so there must have been a sudden and massive spike in demand. Surely this can be traced to an individual, an event, something.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 00:13
by ba7777
scottc wrote:They're worth that much but finding people to buy them might be a pain...
I've probably got about 20 unused G81-3000 cases around, anyone want to buy the lot?!
I am interested in the case if they are winkeyless style.
Please let me know the details and the quote for shipping to China.
Thanks.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 00:23
by E3E
Tuntematon wrote: Has any keyboard economist out there identified the cause of the inflation? Supply has been stable, so there must have been a sudden and massive spike in demand. Surely this can be traced to an individual, an event, something.
I'm not too sure, but the beginnings of the steep prices started with the Keytrak NOS Blue Alps keyboard with Cherry-like key caps.
Several of those went for nearly $300
Then the NTC 6151EA with Blue Alps and missing caps went for like $153
Then the Datatech SPK-100 went for $300 +
Then the Apple M0115 Extended Keyboard went for $500 to a Japanese seller
Then the Focus FK-2001 with Blue Alps went for $360
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I think it might be that a lot of custom Alps keyboard options are around now and people are seeing a lot of acclaim for blue Alps (that AEK notwithstanding) and wanting to get some for their projects at all costs. I just feel like most of these buyers are not collectors but rather people wanting to harvest switches.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 01:05
by ohaimark
I also gave Blue Alps a good review over at Reddit a month (?) prior to that.
I may have been a part of the hype.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 01:16
by alh84001
I guess this was supposed to be used with hands above the keyboard, and fingers dangling down to the keys. But most unnatural thing about this layout are those Ctrl and Alt keys together with the arrow cluster.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 01:42
by E3E
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Midwest-Micro-K ... 2518.l4276
These have been known to have blue Alps in them (I've seen one on TaoBao a while back), however, they have also been known to have MANY other switch varieties too.
This one likely doesn't have blue Alps though.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 01:45
by Chyros
seebart wrote: Haha very good Chyros.

I'd take one for sure. Or better yet the Northgate OmniKey gold label.

Indeed, that would be great too (particularly the 102)

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Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 01:53
by Khronokrator
I think there's just been a sudden spike in the "awareness" of Blue Alps this year, or Alps in general. As people 'mature' into the mechanical keyboard fandom, they eventually hear Alps being mentioned, and for those who like clicky switches, Blue Alps are sometimes made out to be the holy grail.
So these insane prices are probably driven not by veteran enthusiasts but people desperate for a board, or desperate for switches for their custom projects, as E3E speculated.
Edit: also, for Chyros -
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Key-Pro-FK-9000 ... SwezVWxx23
It's extensively yellowed and apparently not working. Too bad... I really want either a 5001 or a 9000, especially since the 5001 doesn't seem to have clone switches.

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 02:12
by Chyros
Ah yeah, I'd seen that one... Thanks for the heads-up mate, but the Focus situation is under development at the moment

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Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 02:25
by Mikelittoris
Khers wrote:
What!? Maybe it's time to sell my Swedish M... That's outrageous!
Yup that's outrageous! Imagine the cash i'd get for a boltmoded iso SSK.

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:06
by elecplus
Dumb question, but what makes blue Alps worth $500? I am going to have to think abt opening a small warehouse. I have 3 pallets of goodies waiting for me to pick up when I return next week. This same Leading Edge (not so yellow) and some other blue Alps are in them. Are blue Alps so rare?
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:11
by Khronokrator
Chyros wrote: Ah yeah, I'd seen that one... Thanks for the heads-up mate, but the Focus situation is under development at the moment

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Aw man, I really want one of those now, too!
Mostly I'm tired of the same old basic keyboards and am looking for things with cool features, which the higher end Focus boards definitely do have. Hard to find, though.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:19
by Redmaus
elecplus wrote: Dumb question, but what makes blue Alps worth $500? I am going to have to think abt opening a small warehouse. I have 3 pallets of goodies waiting for me to pick up when I return next week. This same Leading Edge (not so yellow) and some other blue Alps are in them. Are blue Alps so rare?
Rare somewhat yes. People love them for their clickyness and appraise. I can help you out with selling them

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:31
by E3E
elecplus wrote: Dumb question, but what makes blue Alps worth $500? I am going to have to think abt opening a small warehouse. I have 3 pallets of goodies waiting for me to pick up when I return next week. This same Leading Edge (not so yellow) and some other blue Alps are in them. Are blue Alps so rare?
They're not particularly rare compared to some Alps switches, it's just that their demand is very high and so they are often swept up immediately the second they are available. One quirk to their rarity is that they are often found in boards that can have multiple different switch types so it makes finding one a gamble if you don't know what to look for.
The Leading Edge DC-2014 is one example of a board that always has blue Alps, but unlike boards that have orange Alps like early AEKs, they are far less common.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:35
by elecplus
I guess my view of "rare" is somewhat skewed. For every 4 pallets I sort, I can come up at least 1 pallet of mechanical boards. Maybe it is the source where the scrap comes from, or maybe it is just sheer volume. I have only found 1 industrial M, and 0 Kishsavers

Those are rare to me

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:47
by Blaise170
Someone will make a fortune if they successfully clone Blue Alps.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:50
by Redmaus
Blaise170 wrote: Someone will make a fortune if they successfully clone Blue Alps.
I have already started, with very promising results.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:51
by Tuntematon
If only Matias had been more ambitious. I guess it was just too difficult and expensive. Lame!

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 03:54
by Redmaus
I actually have never tried matias
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 04:02
by Khronokrator
Tuntematon wrote: If only Matias had been more ambitious. I guess it was just too difficult and expensive. Lame!

I've always wondered why Matias based its clicky switch design on crummy clone knockoffs. Talk about low-hanging fruit...

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 04:30
by Hak Foo
Well, I understand he made some solid improvements to the design. The specs are much tighter than real Alps switches (+/- 5 grams instead of 15), and that whole "backlight ready" feature is nice.
The science is still out on how much of a difference complicated versus simplified makes.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 04:34
by Khronokrator
I personally strongly prefer complicated over simplified. Strongly. The sound and the tactile experience of simplified clicky switches is just... off in some way that's hard to describe.
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 08:37
by E3E
Cherry folks like these NCR boards for their cases, right?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-NCR-RS3 ... 2518.l4276

Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 08:51
by Redmaus
Posted: 06 Mar 2016, 09:00
by emdude
I never saw that before so I looked it up and it appears to just be a rubber dome..