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Posted: 05 Jan 2016, 23:36
by rddm
I think the '« »' keycap atleast ahaha
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 00:06
by zslane
Ah. One must make hard choices then. Bummer.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 00:08
by Muirium
All choices are hard. Easy ones aren't choices at all, but illusions.
Ommm…
Granite Round 4 design update
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 00:39
by Troif
Please Matt3o, we europeans with ANSI conviction would love the set for ANSI US International, with the alternate keys in red (as in the cyrilic Round1). Our regional symbols are this way more hardware-accesible than software solutions (like textexpander for accents and so). Think about it.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 02:39
by cswanic
What's the rush for Friday? Just let the boyz know we need another week, they'll understand

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 05:41
by diriel
Hi all,
First post, just found this place. I really need 3 sets of Granite! The US Intl AltGr set *3, the Elven set, the various extra sets. I am looking to build at least 3 custom keyboards all the same, then at least 1 Elven keyboard... Damn you Matt!

I will need to do a bit of head scratching over exactly what extra's beyond the US Intl AltGr, and the Elven sets.
Elven, hey seriously lets roll up a 65% custom keyboard in elven! I would totally be in for 1 of those, maybe even 2 if I could figure out a way to not get murdered...
---: US Intl. AltGr ::
https://zuttobenkyou.wordpress.com/2011 ... rd-layout/
^-- Read the above if you have any questions. This is a truly wonderful keyboard setup. This is THE setup I truly want to make for my 3 (all the same type) custom keyboards. These keyboards are a definite for me. I will keep one for my daily driver, one for my daughter, and one spare. I am leaning towards a slightly modified version of this layout; I simply never use Caps Lock...that real estate could be better utilized IMO. Really pondering 65% Vs. 75% for these. Would very much love to get a GB initiated!
Seriously, if you do the US Intl. AltGr inclusion, I am in for 3 sets + various extra's for them! And that Sindarin is just utterly EPIC! I will have that one alone if i have nothing else from this GB!!
Thank you Matt, for all the hard work!
*Edit* I think Maxmalkav was the first to mention the US Intl. AltGr set.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 08:56
by matt3o
how do you feel if this time we make the Ergodox kit with ICONS instead of TEXT?!
regarding the US intl. I would need to add a whole new kit and we already have too many. I would have probably made US intl instead of secondary legends, but it's a bit too late now.
cswanic wrote: What's the rush for Friday? Just let the boyz know we need another week, they'll understand

unfortunately it's not that simple, we have to allot our spot in their tight schedule.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 09:18
by nissarup
matt3o wrote: how do you feel if this time we make the Ergodox kit with ICONS instead of TEXT?!
I would love icons on my ergodox

Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 11:36
by Troif
matt3o wrote:how do you feel if this time we make the Ergodox kit with ICONS instead of TEXT?
regarding the US intl. I would need to add a whole new kit and we already have too many. I would have probably made US intl instead of secondary legends, but it's a bit too late now.
too sad to cope it... :_(
Matt3o think about it! You are italian and I am spanish in an ANSI World... This would be great!!!
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 11:48
by matt3o
I'm actually very comfortable with the compose key
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 11:59
by Madhias
Then there is a reason for Round 5: adding US INTL
Maybe with three colors?

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 13:36
by inph
Can we get the blue ISO enter key kit again (along side the grey)? Think it fits nicely with the RGB sets.

Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 15:01
by maxmalkav
I feel guilty for not starting the US Intl campaign way earlier

I think it should be a must for ANSI centric GB that aspire to sell in Europe and non English speaking places.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 15:11
by matt3o
it's indeed a nice feature, let's keep it in mind for the next project

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 16:47
by diriel
Ok, will be looking forward to that next project for US Intl. AltGr!
In the mean time, I am in for 2 sets of Sindarin! Now I just need to figure out the support kits for making 2 full up 65% Sindarin boards! Matt3eo, is it too late to flesh out Sindarin a bit more perhaps?
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 17:04
by matt3o
diriel wrote: is it too late to flesh out Sindarin a bit more perhaps?
what you mean?
Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 17:16
by Troif
matt3o wrote:I'm actually very comfortable with the compose key
"Compose Key"? What do you mean? Is it with ANSI-int related?
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 17:16
by diriel
Things like a dedicated Super Key in Sindarin, perhaps symbols for alt, shift, enter etc... that would really fit in with Sindarin and make for a really complete sindarin keyboard. Think 65% type keyboard 100% implemented in / for Tengwar Sindarin. All details considered. I would truly love to be in on a sindarin keyboard design / GB! This key set would make for a nice initial first step!
Thanks matt3eo,
Diriel
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 17:40
by Muirium
Where did Tolkien record the glyph for Alt, I wonder…
Icon mods should do!
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 18:00
by matt3o
The elven layout (please note that I never reference to it as "elvish" as I never reference to human language as "humanish") is pretty complete, almost all tengwar are represented, all we would miss are funky modifiers, but as Muirium says it's not that we have a sindarin word for each of them, so it would be pretty arbitrary.
Re compose key:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 18:54
by DanielT
Madhias wrote: Then there is a reason for Round 5: adding US INTL
Maybe with three colors?

This layout saved my life

It should be included in a next project. Ivan had it in one of his GB's
Re: Granite Round 4 design update
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 19:22
by Troif
Uauuu! May be others out there do not know how to do it. Matt3o, I use textExpander software to combine '+e=é but I need to relly on this software, what method do you use then? Do you create a "Compose key"? How can I do that on Mac? I know it is a little off-topic but it would help me a lot. You know? Learning best practices from you all.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 19:52
by matt3o
the mac already has a sort of compose key, not sure how many weird characters you can reach with it, but I'm fine with Italian.
On linux the compose key comes by default (you can assign it to various modifiers or even caps lock), so it's not really a problem. On windows there's a small app that emulates the compose key, should be easy to find.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 20:21
by stuplarosa
What is the new text on the Tengwar escape key?
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 20:24
by diriel
@matt3eo,
I was just reading through that Tengwar Sendarin key caps / keyboard thread over on Geekhack where you and samwisekoi were working hard on a group buy. You knew precisely what I was talking about when I said 100% fully functional key cap set in Sendarin!
Hey, I truly appreciate all of your hard work here! I am definitely in for 2 sets of Sendarin!
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 21:21
by matt3o
stuplarosa wrote: What is the new text on the Tengwar escape key?
pedo mellon a minno
diriel wrote: @matt3eo,
I was just reading through that Tengwar Sendarin key caps / keyboard thread over on Geekhack where you and samwisekoi were working hard on a group buy. You knew precisely what I was talking about when I said 100% fully functional key cap set in Sendarin!
Hey, I truly appreciate all of your hard work here! I am definitely in for 2 sets of Sendarin!
this version is actually simplified so you could easily use it with tengwar TTFs. I hope to be able to make a tutorial about that. Also I'll try to make the red letters smaller for the final version.
Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 22:13
by stuplarosa
matt3o wrote: stuplarosa wrote: What is the new text on the Tengwar escape key?
pedo mellon a minno
Nice
Shouldn't that be on the "enter" key?

Posted: 06 Jan 2016, 23:12
by zslane
So I take it there won't be a red version of the ESC key with the three legends?
Posted: 07 Jan 2016, 03:26
by diriel
@matt3eo,
You were wanting to make auerebesh, klingon, and sindarin as a combined group buy?!?! That would kill me! I would literally have to get at least 1 of the aurebesh as a present for my brother, and the klingon + sindarin for myself!
Not trying to derail this thread, so if those things are for another time / GB that's cool too.
Posted: 07 Jan 2016, 11:39
by matt3o
yeah sooner or later I'll do that as well

There are some licensing issues I guess... especially with aurebesh now that SW is Disney.