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Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 16:40
by 7bit
grasshopper wrote:7bit, I've just been reviewing my order and I don't think I ever had an answer to this question. I'd also like three sets of white on black keys to enable CAPS LOCK and CTRL to be swapped.
Is it possible to order the above keys individually, or are they only available as part of a kit?
The symbols keys are available separately.
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HANDBAGESC 1 3 Handbag key (1 unit, row 1)
HANDBAGCAP 1 5 Handbag key (1.75 units, center-mount, row 3)
HANDBAGCAPS 1 5 Handbag key (1.75 units, stepped, row 3)
HANDBAG100 1 3 Handbag key (1 unit, row 4)
HANDBAG125 1 3 Handbag key (1.25 unit, row 4)
HANDBAG150 1 5 Handbag key (1.5 unit, row 4)
Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 16:48
by grasshopper
7bit wrote:grasshopper wrote:7bit, I've just been reviewing my order and I don't think I ever had an answer to this question. I'd also like three sets of white on black keys to enable CAPS LOCK and CTRL to be swapped.
Is it possible to order the above keys individually, or are they only available as part of a kit?
The symbols keys are available separately.
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HANDBAGESC 1 3 Handbag key (1 unit, row 1)
HANDBAGCAP 1 5 Handbag key (1.75 units, center-mount, row 3)
HANDBAGCAPS 1 5 Handbag key (1.75 units, stepped, row 3)
HANDBAG100 1 3 Handbag key (1 unit, row 4)
HANDBAG125 1 3 Handbag key (1.25 unit, row 4)
HANDBAG150 1 5 Handbag key (1.5 unit, row 4)
But what about SUPER, META, CAPS LOCK, and CTRL? Are they available separately? If they are then can you tell me what the ordering codes are?
Thanks
Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 16:49
by 7bit
Only symbol keys are available separately.
What do you want?
Posted: 27 Jan 2012, 17:06
by grasshopper
7bit wrote:Only symbol keys are available separately.
What do you want?
I have three G81-1800 keyboards fitted with white on black double shot keys. For each keyboard I want to replace the Windows keys with SUPER and META keys. I also want to swap the CAPS LOCK and CTRL keys.
I therefore want the following:
6 single unit SUPER keys
3 single unit META keys
3 CAPS LOCK keys (to put in CTRL position)
3 CTRL keys (to put in CAPS LOCK position)
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 01:17
by dfxdx
Sorry if this has been asked before...
I get the 'units' - the width of the keys. What is not clear to me is the stem. I want a 'handbag' non-stepped capslock key for my US Filco, so the following would work:
HANDBAGCAP 1 5 Handbag key (1.75 units, center-mount, row 3)
since the stem is centred so 'center-mount' would work (please correct if I am wrong here).
I would also like the same for my UK G80-3000, but the stem is off-centre. Which one should I order?
I have the same issue with the bottom row (Alt, Alt-Gr, 2xWin, 2xCtrl, menu): I need one set of NOIR keys (with centre stems) for my US Filco to match my Cherry DS keys, but I would also like a set for my UK G80 which has off-centre stems.
Thanks.
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 03:36
by wtzOlt
Hi,
Noob here. I need help understanding what should I send the "bot" to order this setup that I want:
Normal keys in colemak layout
Cap Colour: Green (VAV) or Grey (GG/GDT/GA/etc...) if green is not available.
Lettering Colour: White (WA)
?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 08:33
by Gilgam
not possible
check the wiki (round 4)
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Doubleshot_ ... ts_Round_4
and for dummies
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Round_Four_4_Dummies
I hope this helps
the order process is quite complicated but one you get it's getting (worse) better
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 09:32
by 7bit
grasshopper wrote:7bit wrote:Only symbol keys are available separately.
What do you want?
I have three G81-1800 keyboards fitted with white on black double shot keys. For each keyboard I want to replace the Windows keys with SUPER and META keys. I also want to swap the CAPS LOCK and CTRL keys.
I therefore want the following:
6 single unit SUPER keys
3 single unit META keys
3 CAPS LOCK keys (to put in CTRL position)
3 CTRL keys (to put in CAPS LOCK position)
You need:
NOIR/STANDARD
NOIR/MODIFIER100
I'm not sure about the space bar.
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 09:36
by 7bit
dfxdx wrote:Sorry if this has been asked before...
I get the 'units' - the width of the keys. What is not clear to me is the stem. I want a 'handbag' non-stepped capslock key for my US Filco, so the following would work:
HANDBAGCAP 1 5 Handbag key (1.75 units, center-mount, row 3)
since the stem is centred so 'center-mount' would work (please correct if I am wrong here).
I would also like the same for my UK G80-3000, but the stem is off-centre. Which one should I order?
I have the same issue with the bottom row (Alt, Alt-Gr, 2xWin, 2xCtrl, menu): I need one set of NOIR keys (with centre stems) for my US Filco to match my Cherry DS keys, but I would also like a set for my UK G80 which has off-centre stems.
Thanks.
It is the right Caps Lock key, the stepped version is the off-center one for Cherry keyboards.
You need:
HANDBAGCAPS (1.75 units, stepped, row 3)
There are no other keys with off-center stems!
Cherry Caps Lock keys are is the only ones.
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 09:38
by 7bit
wtzOlt wrote:Hi,
Noob here. I need help understanding what should I send the "bot" to order this setup that I want:
Normal keys in colemak layout
Cap Colour: Green (VAV) or Grey (GG/GDT/GA/etc...) if green is not available.
Lettering Colour: White (WA)
?
There is no green available.
If you want white on grey you should take ROUND3 style.
It depends on your keybaord:
ROUND3/STANDARDCOLEMAK
or
ROUND3/STANDARD125COLEMAK
or
ROUND3/STANDARD150COLEMAK
or
ROUND3/TENKLESSCOLEMAK
or
ROUND3/TKLCOLEMAK
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 16:53
by xbb
7bit is there any set for the G80-2551?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 20:22
by Gilgam
Gilgam wrote:not possible
Oops sorry colemak is possible as 7bit said. I haven't read that one
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 20:34
by grasshopper
7bit wrote:grasshopper wrote:7bit wrote:Only symbol keys are available separately.
What do you want?
I have three G81-1800 keyboards fitted with white on black double shot keys. For each keyboard I want to replace the Windows keys with SUPER and META keys. I also want to swap the CAPS LOCK and CTRL keys.
I therefore want the following:
6 single unit SUPER keys
3 single unit META keys
3 CAPS LOCK keys (to put in CTRL position)
3 CTRL keys (to put in CAPS LOCK position)
You need:
NOIR/STANDARD
NOIR/MODIFIER100
I'm not sure about the space bar.
I realise the keys I'm after are included in some of the kits. However, I can't justify or afford to buy 162 keycaps just to use 5 of them. Even before the price hike that would have been crazy.
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 22:35
by 7bit
xbb wrote:7bit is there any set for the G80-2551?
ROUND3/TERMINAL
SPH/TERMINAL
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 22:38
by 7bit
grasshopper wrote:I realise the keys I'm after are included in some of the kits. However, I can't justify or afford to buy 162 keycaps just to use 5 of them. Even before the price hike that would have been crazy.
I seems you want supplement keys to existing Cherry keys, right?
I will see what I can do ...
CHERRYBLACK100
grasshopper wrote:
6 single unit SUPER keys
3 single unit META keys
3 CAPS LOCK keys (to put in CTRL position)
3 CTRL keys (to put in CAPS LOCK position)
Problem: If the font should match, the setup fee is $45 per legend.
We would need
Super
Meta
Caps Lock
Control
What about other options like a MODSYM100 kit which contains 1 unit keys with square, circle, diamond and triangle (2 each), price: unbeatable $5 !!!
For Control in the Caps Lock position you take the HANDBAGCAPS and pretend the logo on it means Control.
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 23:06
by xbb
7bit wrote:xbb wrote:7bit is there any set for the G80-2551?
ROUND3/TERMINAL
SPH/TERMINAL
I have already the ROUND3 standard set, so I need only ROUND3/ROUND3TERM right?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 23:11
by 7bit
xbb wrote:I have already the ROUND3 standard set, so I need only ROUND3/ROUND3TERM right?
ROUND3/STANDARD 0
ROUND3/TERMINAL 1
^^^Or more if you like, or just add ROUND3/TERMINAL and use the STANDARD for some oother keyboard...
BTW: How comes that everybody here in Europe has got naked G80-2551?
Posted: 28 Jan 2012, 23:24
by xbb
7bit wrote:xbb wrote:I have already the ROUND3 standard set, so I need only ROUND3/ROUND3TERM right?
ROUND3/STANDARD 0
ROUND3/TERMINAL 1
^^^Or more if you like, or just add ROUND3/TERMINAL and use the STANDARD for some oother keyboard...
BTW: How comes that everybody here in Europe has got naked G80-2551?
I mean have the standard set from the previous group buy, and I have many spare keycaps and no more space for keyboards
I have other two G80-2551 with keycaps!
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 10:41
by 7bit
The you where right:
Just order ROUND3/ROUND3TERM and be happy
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 11:20
by Half-Saint
7bit wrote:xbb wrote:I have already the ROUND3 standard set, so I need only ROUND3/ROUND3TERM right?
ROUND3/STANDARD 0
ROUND3/TERMINAL 1
^^^Or more if you like, or just add ROUND3/TERMINAL and use the STANDARD for some oother keyboard...
BTW: How comes that everybody here in Europe has got naked G80-2551?
Was going to harvest one for switches
What's up with ROUND 3 CAPS LOCK keys? Can I order ROUND3/HANDBAG? Has to fit a G80-18xx and G80-2551.
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 15:31
by 7bit
Half-Saint wrote:Was going to harvest one for switches
What's up with ROUND 3 CAPS LOCK keys? Can I order ROUND3/HANDBAG? Has to fit a G80-18xx and G80-2551.
ROUND3/HANDBAGCAPS is the 1.75 units stepped caps key.
BTW: I went through some of the order/prices:
NOIR prices will stay at what they are. I've got to take a look into NOIR/*RGB* stuff, but I think it will not change much as well.
RETRO prices are a bit too low. Kits are currently 15-25% more expensive than the prices in the pricelist!
I will take a look into BLOOD and then recalculate prcies for NOIR/*RGB* (they depend on blood brices).
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:51
by rindorbrot
No more CHERRYRGB kits?
I was really excited about real RGB modifiers...
Is there any chance the get RGB modifiers that match Round3 colors?
I know black/white on RGB is not going to happen, so I'd be satisfied with RGB on GX (thats the very dark grey from round3, isn't it?)
So I'd like to ask if there is a kit for this in Iso-layout (basicly like the CHERRYRGB105 but with rgb on grey)
Or is it possible to order the modifier keys as RGB Blanks?
But the codes for the Blanks are even more complicated than the normal codes, so I'd appreciate help with those
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:54
by Half-Saint
Just one more question.. ROUND3/TERM is actually 95 keys? Why?
Even if you replace all the keys except the alphanumeric part and the numeric keypad this amounts to 49 keys. I have the original ROUND3/STANDARD so why do I need 95 more keys for a 122-key board?
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:56
by xbb
Half-Saint wrote:Just one more question.. ROUND3/TERM is actually 95 keys? Why?
Even if you replace all the keys except the alphanumeric part and the numeric keypad this amounts to 49 keys. I have the original ROUND3/STANDARD so why do I need 95 more keys for a 122-key board?
we better buy keyboard with keycaps included next time
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 20:58
by Half-Saint
There are still NIB G80-2551HAD available on ebay.de for 16.90
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 21:23
by 7bit
rindorbrot wrote:No more CHERRYRGB kits?
I was really excited about real RGB modifiers...
Is there any chance the get RGB modifiers that match Round3 colors?
I know black/white on RGB is not going to happen, so I'd be satisfied with RGB on GX (thats the very dark grey from round3, isn't it?)
So I'd like to ask if there is a kit for this in Iso-layout (basicly like the CHERRYRGB105 but with rgb on grey)
Or is it possible to order the modifier keys as RGB Blanks?
But the codes for the Blanks are even more complicated than the normal codes, so I'd appreciate help with those
There where too few orders, so I removed them.
Blanks are more expensive than doubleshots if their color is not the same as the double shots.
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 21:25
by 7bit
Half-Saint wrote:Just one more question.. ROUND3/TERM is actually 95 keys? Why?
Even if you replace all the keys except the alphanumeric part and the numeric keypad this amounts to 49 keys. I have the original ROUND3/STANDARD so why do I need 95 more keys for a 122-key board?
The idea was to have everything which did not exist in Round 3 plus those keys which are getting shiny quite soon.
Maybe I should split it up ...
One more kit does not matter anymore ...
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 21:26
by 7bit
Half-Saint wrote:There are still NIB G80-2551HAD available on ebay.de for 16.90
But they are wrongly labelded and are ugliy thick Cherry key caps instead of sexy slim SPs!
PS: Go for sphericals they are cheaper!!!!
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 21:29
by Half-Saint
There's a TERM spherical kit for G80-2551? With spacebar?
Wow
Which color style is the cheapest? The price list seems to be out of date.
ROUND3/ROUND3TERM $80 for 90 keys
SPH/TERMINAL $115 for 158 keys
Are the key quantities correct?
TBH, I was hoping for a simple and cheap ROUND3/TERM kit that I could use to upgrade my existing ROUND3 kit for use with G80-2551.
Posted: 29 Jan 2012, 21:31
by rouston
Prices are going incredibly high.
I'm afraid I'm going to cancel the whole order. The wait only makes prices increasing...
too bad