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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 23:34
by Palatino
Not unless your intel on it is more visible.
Posted: 14 Oct 2021, 23:40
by davkol
derp
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 00:33
by Palatino
Aha, thank you. Had hoped mechanical as I like the shape, and Terry. Looks like it’s a PCVA-KB4P/U.

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 00:58
by hellothere
Fixed your bad links.
It's an Intel MDS 225.
Oh. You wanted a bit more?
There's a lot of info about this keyboard and the
Intel Microcomputer Development System online. Just Google it.
What kind of switches does it have?
This thread says Micro Switch.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 01:03
by TicTocTom
Like a model M but with a rectangular badge (missing)
Please help me ID what looks to me like a Model M copy. Any idea of make, model or switch?
Thanks
Edit. Krytronic maybe? Looks like Keytronic E03600 rubber dome, but without windows keys. Anyone know the model or switch?
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 01:25
by Lucid
Doesn’t have the distinctive KeyTronic font
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 02:35
by TicTocTom
That’s good news, I think.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 03:23
by TicTocTom
TicTocTom wrote: 15 Oct 2021, 01:03
Like a model M but with a rectangular badge (missing)
Please help me ID what looks to me like a Model M copy. Any idea of make, model or switch?
Thanks
Edit. Krytronic maybe? Looks like Keytronic E03600 rubber dome, but without windows keys. Anyone know the model or switch?
EditEdit… wait, is this just a Unicomp?
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 15 Oct 2021, 03:43
by Lucid
The shapes of the tops and the font don’t look like IBM buckling spring keycaps though
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 16 Oct 2021, 13:57
by Shorle
This Unisys is simular to the usual Mitsumi KPQ system but has a different "receiver", still dome above plate with slider it seems.
Also notice the rough finish on the case.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 16 Oct 2021, 15:00
by Lucid
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 00:33
by hellothere
I'm answering my own questions today

.
NEC PC-9801V
This keyboard probably has
NEC blue oval switches.
Reference.
NEC PC98
This keyboard most likely has
NMB dome w/slider, per Chyros.
This seller currently has a number of keyboards for sale and these two caught my eye. Took a while before I was able to find info on them.
The other ones from this seller are a
brown/tan 8801, which I think has
Alps integrated dome and an
8801 mkII that has the possibility of having blue Alps, but it's probably Futaba.
I made an offer on the 9801V, although I now have at least 2 and a 1/2 NEC blue oval keyboards. Hey, it's pretty.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 19 Oct 2021, 04:11
by soyuz
in order: cream oval, probs dws, nec vintage linear, 100% futaba, no chance of blue alps
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 02:47
by hellothere
Seller responded that he won't remove keycaps to confirm.
Both of my offers on the 9801 were turned down. I just think $120 is a bit too much. I still think it's a really nice looking keyboard.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 08:08
by inozenz
hellothere wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 02:47
Seller responded that he won't remove keycaps to confirm.
Both of my offers on the 9801 were turned down. I just think $120 is a bit too much. I still think it's a really nice looking keyboard.
wasnt it free international shipping? considering that its indeed nec oval creams and not yellowed at all, its a pretty good deal for 120$.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 08:39
by 4_404
Does anyone recognise anything about this? Clearly not a normal keyboard, and it's nearly as tall as it is wide. Uses steel sliders to press Micro Switch microswitches. Branded GTE Information Systems, dated PCB dated 1973. Has a strange logo on the PCBs which looks like an E/C, M/I or W/I and a lighting bolt.

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 09:29
by inozenz
4_404 wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 08:39
Does anyone recognise anything about this? Clearly not a normal keyboard, and it's nearly as tall as it is wide. Uses steel sliders to press Micro Switch microswitches. Branded GTE Information Systems, dated PCB dated 1973. Has a strange logo on the PCBs which looks like an E/C, M/I or W/I and a lighting bolt.
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What a layout xD abcdefghijklmopqrstuvwxyz
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 11:01
by 4_404
inozenz wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 09:29
4_404 wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 08:39
Does anyone recognise anything about this? Clearly not a normal keyboard, and it's nearly as tall as it is wide. Uses steel sliders to press Micro Switch microswitches. Branded GTE Information Systems, dated PCB dated 1973. Has a strange logo on the PCBs which looks like an E/C, M/I or W/I and a lighting bolt.
1.jpg
What a layout xD abcdefghijklmopqrstuvwxyz
Yeah it's a classic isn't it. I like the space bar in the bottom left and the LED where the space bar should be.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 12:04
by inozenz
4_404 wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 11:01
inozenz wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 09:29
4_404 wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 08:39
Does anyone recognise anything about this? Clearly not a normal keyboard, and it's nearly as tall as it is wide. Uses steel sliders to press Micro Switch microswitches. Branded GTE Information Systems, dated PCB dated 1973. Has a strange logo on the PCBs which looks like an E/C, M/I or W/I and a lighting bolt.
1.jpg
What a layout xD abcdefghijklmopqrstuvwxyz
Yeah it's a classic isn't it. I like the space bar in the bottom left and the LED where the space bar should be.
perfect layout for teachers xD
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 19:28
by hellothere
I was thinking more along the lines of "stock market." I Googled Market Minder + Limit Minder and got
https://www.jstor.org/stable/4529591. Financial Analysts Journal from 1973. The article's behind a paywall, though. I then Googled "video-scan" and got back
this from 1970:
St[o]ckmaster is the original price interrogation unit from Reuters: Videomaster is an even more advanced system with capacity for additional modes of operation, such as display of Videoscan information and link-up with your own computer.
Hey, I thought it was interesting.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 21 Oct 2021, 23:24
by SOTGO
I'm not sure about the legality of sending the PDF itself, but the relevant page is also depicted on this website:
https://www.adspast.com/store/customer/ ... ctid=41738
The text talks about the Videomaster 7850, but it doesn't say anything about the keyboard associated with it, just the system. Also the picture is too hard to make out even in the better quality version.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 22 Oct 2021, 00:12
by 4_404
SOTGO wrote: 21 Oct 2021, 23:24
I'm not sure about the legality of sending the PDF itself, but the relevant page is also depicted on this website:
https://www.adspast.com/store/customer/ ... ctid=41738
The text talks about the Videomaster 7850, but it doesn't say anything about the keyboard associated with it, just the system. Also the picture is too hard to make out even in the better quality version.
Thanks, that's all great info. Looking at the Videomaster 7850, I saw this post
https://www.reddit.com/r/vintagecomputi ... ash_seems/, which in turn linked to this ad with a great picture of the 7850
https://i.imgur.com/naPIMNW.jpg.
It has a very different keyboard to the one I have, however this
http://www.bitsavers.org/pdf/datapro/al ... 25_GTE.pdf mentions three different keyboard options:
"Three keyboard styles are available with the IS/7800, which duplicate those offered with the IBM 3270: typewriter, data entry, and operator console."
This seems promising, especially the operator console, however I'm not aware of any IBM 3270 keyboard even remotely similar to this one.
It appears that early on, the systems were marketed under the Ultronics brand. Here's another photo of the 'Videomaster 7000' product line from the 'Museum of American Finance
https://www.flickr.com/photos/financemu ... ist-8F4DKu. This is an earlier machine than the 7850, and is clearly a different keyboard with a more normal layout, but has an identical profile and general aesthetic. This also identifies the logo from the keyboard PCB as the Ultronics logo. As such, it would appear that the one I have is either an alternative (e.g. operator console) keyboard for the Videomaster 7000, or the keyboard for one of its successors before the 7850.
Edit: More articles showing the typewriter style keyboard in action
here and
here.
Edit 2: While browsing the photos from the American Museum of Finance, I spotted the keyboard in the background of
this photo. Note the ortho layout and 3u horizontal key.
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 26 Oct 2021, 03:21
by ThePipersSon13
https://imgur.com/a/DZVjaKE
Hey everyone found this board on an ebay posting. The seller is indicating it came with a Unitron U2900T. I read that most Unitron keyboards are rebranded Datacomp's but can't find this one. The broken off switch seems like a grey cherry to me. Cheers
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 26 Oct 2021, 03:39
by Lucid
ThePipersSon13 wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 03:21
https://imgur.com/a/DZVjaKE
Hey everyone found this board on an ebay posting. The seller is indicating it came with a Unitron U2900T. I read that most Unitron keyboards are rebranded Datacomp's but can't find this one. The broken off switch seems like a grey cherry to me. Cheers
Looks like an apple ii clone keyboard
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=58951.0
http://www.applelogic.org/UnitronAndI.html
(Scroll down to the bottom)
Looks like it could possibly come with alps as well
viewtopic.php?p=452525#p452525
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 26 Oct 2021, 07:16
by BeauxGnar
ThePipersSon13 wrote: 26 Oct 2021, 03:21
https://imgur.com/a/DZVjaKE
Hey everyone found this board on an ebay posting. The seller is indicating it came with a Unitron U2900T. I read that most Unitron keyboards are rebranded Datacomp's but can't find this one. The broken off switch seems like a grey cherry to me. Cheers
This does infact appear to be the keyboard from a U2900T system. After a bit of digging I did find this brochure but it's incredibly low res and in German. Something something keyboard Keytronic.
https://forum.classic-computing.de/inde ... humbnail=1
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 26 Oct 2021, 11:18
by ZeFritz
Brochure says: „IBM plug in keyboard from KEYTRONIC or others“
„83 keys including function keys and numeric keys/keypad“
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 04 Nov 2021, 23:14
by Palatino
Does anyone recognise this? (minus the stickers, obviously)

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Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 05 Nov 2021, 00:10
by Lucid
Looks an awful lot like a Cherry KFN3
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 06 Nov 2021, 02:16
by Morning_Spirit
Greetings Everyone,
This is my first post here and I wanted to share a couple of keyboard I found for sale locally. Some of this I already knew what to expect, just making sure that my guess is right.
Listed as Vintage Keyboard for Old Computer AT XT

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Can't find any info about it on the net by searching the model number.
I recognize this is a 4-tab alps clone(?)
This one is listed as Vintage Mechanical Keyboard Eagle F21

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Also can't find any clue after searching the model number
Not even sure if its even mechanical, maybe sliders? membrane? But the mounting style is familiar.
The last one is listed as Vintage Keyboard GXD3N Aurora Microsystem.

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Described by seller as not mechanical. Just asked to pull one keycap and a pic of the back, still waiting for a reply.
bonus
there's a dead g84 for sale for about $25 including shipping. no trackball module, maybe i can salvage the switches and keycaps, thinking of handwiring it
is it worth the money?
Thank you for the attention. Pardon if there are language errors as English is not my first language. Cheers
Re: IDENTIFY THE KEYBOARD thread
Posted: 06 Nov 2021, 07:06
by Palatino
Welcome to the forum.
The middle one, branded “Eagle”, has Tai-Hao semi-mechanical switches (not good, but the keycaps should be doubleshots if you want to harvest those)
wiki/Tai-Hao_APC_semi-mechanical_keyboard
Generally searching for the FCCID is better than using the model name as different companies come up with all sorts of names and branding for the same basic keyboard.