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Re: AW: deskthority - Suggestions and Changelog

Posted: 19 Jun 2013, 06:53
by mintberryminuscrunch
Firefox has some serious issues
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Posted: 19 Jun 2013, 13:04
by dondy
hmm, can't confirm that for "firefox" - looks like you mean firefox-mobile though?

*nitpick*...

Posted: 19 Jun 2013, 17:01
by Muirium
Could that be Firefox OS? If so, there's a lot of fixing needing done on their end for the Internet as a whole. It's very much still in early development, last I heard.

Firefox renders DT so well that even the one-man PowerPC port – Tenfourfox – that I run on my G5 works just nicely. Ditto for both modern and ancient versions of Safari. Even my 2008 iPod touch does admirably. Nothing like above.

Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 01:34
by Acanthophis
I don't know if it's already been suggested.

In quotes, I'd like a direct link to the quoted post. Or implement the post permalink into the quote. But somehow subtle, like a little icon or so.

Is that possible with our forum software?

Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 02:01
by Muirium
That'd be jolly nice, Acanthophis.

I find permalinks to other posts quite clunky by themselves. Sometimes you'll scroll to the wrong place in the page no matter what. Seems to need some fixing before getting automated use.

Posted: 26 Jun 2013, 09:16
by webwit
Try the icon next to the post time.

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 18:28
by Muirium
webwit wrote:Try the icon next to the post time.
Thanks Webwit. That's how I found individual post links in the first place. The mostly work just fine, but sometimes the view will be off and I'll wind up linking to an irrelevant post. I test them now before submitting. Next time I bump into an error, I'll post it.

By the way: when replying to PMs, I forever get the subject overwritten by my username. Any idea why? It happens essentially every time on my iPad (this commuter's computer of choice) and I know to expect it now and paste in the right one before sending. Something's up with JavaScript, says the non-web-developer. The subject is correct on page load, but gets replaced the moment I start typing my text in the main message box below.

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 19:54
by Acanthophis
Na, you both misunderstood me.

I meant permalinks in quotes.
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I'd like to have a permalink somewhere where I indicated in the example pic.

Often posts are not completely quoted and/or on previous pages.
When I like to read the whole post which another one quoted, I have to digg through the thread.

Something like this (permalink is marked):
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That's what I meant.
Sorry I didn't phrase it so well :/

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 19:58
by bhtooefr
I don't think phpBB can do that without mods?

The screenshot you provided is of a vBulletin forum.

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 20:01
by Acanthophis
Acanthophis wrote:Is that possible with our forum software?
That's why I'm asking ;)

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 21:11
by Muirium
A little off topic: but I much prefer DT's look to that vBulletin forum's design. So clean!

The quote auto link is a good idea though.

Posted: 08 Jul 2013, 23:01
by Compgeke
It seems there is a mod for phpBB to allow that to happen, although I've never used it.

https://www.phpbb.com/customise/db/mod/ ... nk_(qpbl)/

vBulletin does have some more advanced features such as that by default, but it's also quite expensive, whereas phpBB is free.

Posted: 09 Jul 2013, 07:41
by kbdfr
Muirium wrote:A little off topic: but I much prefer DT's look to that vBulletin forum's design. So clean! […]
+1

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 20:17
by kps
When I try to upload an SVG to the wiki page here, it gives an Error creating thumbnail: /usr/local/bin/rsvg: not found, although there are numerous existing SVGs that display correctly.

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 20:23
by webwit
I updated some server software today, maybe it's related. There is a /usr/local/bin/rsvg-convert. I'll look into it.

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 21:23
by webwit
Can you check if it works now?

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 22:32
by Daniel Beardsmore
Not working. ?action=purge has no effect: all you get is a generic placeholder image (but if you click the link to the actual SVG, it comes up fine).

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 22:45
by webwit
What about now? Rsvg was depracated, rsvg-convert is the same but requires an additional argument...

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 22:48
by Daniel Beardsmore
Just add ?action=purge to the page URL from kps to regenerate the PNG rendering after each test. Once you see the same image as you get from clicking the link to the SVG itself, you're done.

In this case, I get: Error creating thumbnail: Cannot parse integer value '-h383' for -w

Posted: 14 Jul 2013, 23:42
by webwit
Thanks, should be fixed now. Needs SVG image to be reuploaded.

Posted: 15 Jul 2013, 00:45
by kps
Yup, works now; thanks.

Posted: 18 Jul 2013, 19:37
by Muirium
Bug: forum spy doesn't like long first "words", an image URL I posted in this case:
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Spilling right out of the layout.

Posted: 19 Jul 2013, 02:30
by 002
Yeah I reported this one a while back: http://deskthority.net/deskthority-rela ... t4261.html

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 01:10
by Daniel Beardsmore
I'm a little surprised that phpBB doesn't support specifying a city with time zone, requiring manual switching of the forum in and out of DST. I'm still waiting for the IT industry to realise that this is the 21st century … (Moreover, why doesn't HTTP permit sending time zone details directly to the server for this very purpose?)

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 03:05
by Muirium
I believe Sir Tim (Berners-Lee) said unidirectional links were the most egregious oversight of his in the web's design. (You can follow a link forward, but not back. A fact misused by aggregators the world over.) But there are many more flaws in the stack, of course.

I'm not technical enough to even know whether HHTP contains time stamps. But if it does, I bet they're UTC and so interpretation is left to the host and the browser's locale.

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 03:11
by Daniel Beardsmore
MediaWiki permits entering (e.g.) Europe/London, so it knows I'm in BST right now. phpBB isn't clever enough.

HTTP dates are all in GMT. MIME is interesting in that dates are in local time, but suffixed with the offset from GMT (e.g. +0100). Within the same time zone, all times in e-mail headers use local time, but you can still determine the time in any other zone readily. (MIME also uses English date strings in European order ("Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2013 02:10:27 +0100"), instead of culture-neutral, which is a bit messed up.)

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 03:47
by webwit
It can be done. But you know. phpBB is just these couple of guys. Hardly the "IT industry".
http://dev.maxmind.com/geoip/legacy/mod_geoip2/

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 03:53
by Daniel Beardsmore
My last dealings with phpBB indicated that the developers came from a country where crack is really cheap :) I don't particularly want to ever administer it again.

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 16:38
by Muirium
Muirium wrote:
webwit wrote:Try the icon next to the post time.
Thanks Webwit. That's how I found individual post links in the first place. The mostly work just fine, but sometimes the view will be off and I'll wind up linking to an irrelevant post. I test them now before submitting. Next time I bump into an error, I'll post it.
As promised: this link should go to ms264556's comment (currently at the very bottom of the page). But it does not, reliably at least. Try it for yourself. All the images in earlier posts seem to throw it off.

Posted: 20 Jul 2013, 18:48
by bhtooefr
That's likely related to JavaScript resizing/loading of images - the browser is satisfied everything is loaded, goes ahead and follows the fragment identifier... and then JavaScript loads the images.