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Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 07:14
by drrtyrokka
:/

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 09:00
by lefthandedspatula
Did you try haggling?

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 09:16
by Flintfish
Arrrgh! :shock: :o

How much of a price increase are we talking about? How many more caps do we need to buy ?!?

I just found a new kit that wasn't there before (the grey numrow with a R1 equal - finally the filco numpad can be properly equipped :lol: ) so I don't mind ordering more, but after this I'm really :roll: done.

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 09:19
by drrtyrokka
You mean more ordering except the leftovers?

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 09:19
by Flintfish
lefthandedspatula wrote:Did you try haggling?
7bit wrote:I think this is the last group buy with SP, I ever run! :-(
Hmm. I see a potential plan here: "Use the old quote or we stop doing buisness with you!"

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 09:26
by alarmschaben
Hey, how about investing the collecting money into something while we're waiting? Ideally, the problem solves itself that way... :)

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:14
by Muirium
I believe it is split up among the collectors, waiting for invoicing from SP.

Seriously shitty shifty move on their part, hiking at the end. We were ready to go into production months ago and waited for them on 2 unit row 1 BACKSPACE. Grr!

What's the price hike look like in % anyway?

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:36
by 7bit
The problem is that tools and new legends cost less and key caps production costs more.
This results in higher import tax.

I hope that is clear enough.

We collected way more money to pay for production than it is actually needed, including shipping to and from me.

One solution is to order more (prices will get down), pay and let them produce. Then, wait until enough had been sold to pay for customs fees, so the order can be shipped.

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:45
by Muirium
I'm not naturally right wing, but: GODDAMN TAXES!! Quit getting between me and my caps!

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:49
by drrtyrokka
Smuggling is the answer guys!! :D

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 10:59
by Muirium
Keycaps: just as coveted as blood diamonds and the purest drugs. Anyone got a boat? Going the mule route is not my preference. How would they ever fit a TKL worth up there?

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 13:21
by 7bit
We could smuggle them in Banana boxes, so we will pay only 7% and all will be good!
:-)

Seriously:
The whole thing is off by around $15-20 per order (~300 orders).
-- emoticon omitted deliberately --

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 13:30
by Game Theory
7bit wrote:The problem is that tools and new legends cost less and key caps production costs more.
This results in higher import tax.
Also, although I am sure I'm not fully grasping what's possible or full amount of work required, but I am in the US so no import tax, if it would be possible to offload some of the processing to me. I can hear 7bit laughing (evilly) already:)

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 13:51
by 7bit
The world is the wrong way round!

If SP and GMK would swap their places, everything would be good.

BTW:
You would need to sort ~100,000 keys into 412 kits. There are 1357 different kinds of key caps.

What about the shipping costs?

Code: Select all

EU|122
US|106
CA| 19
CN| 14
AU| 11
KR|  7
CH|  5
HK|  5
NO|  5
NZ|  4
SG|  4
ID|  2
JP|  2
MY|  2
RU|  2
BN|  1
BR|  1
IN|  1
JA|  1
PE|  1
TW|  1
UA|  1
VN|  1
:shock:

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 13:55
by Kouni
You would need to sort ~100,000 keys into 412 kits. There are 1357 different kinds of key caps.
My head just exploded at the mere thought of this.

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 14:00
by 7bit
33 boxes at 18 lb.
:evilgeek:

269.43kg.
:shock:

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 14:14
by Yslen
Wait, you're saying SP have increased their prices since giving you the quote?

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 14:31
by 7bit
No, just shifted, compared to last time.
:?

I'm working at a solution.
:o

Please order more!!!!
:-)

HONEY/VIM will bring you 4 VIM keys for row 1 in 4 different colors.
;-)

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 14:46
by Yslen
7bit wrote:No, just shifted, compared to last time.
:?
So they're not making more money out of it? Ask them to change it back! :(

As far as ordering more keycaps goes, I can't spend any more until I've started my new job. If this group buy is still going on in August I'll pick up some more kits :P

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 14:51
by drrtyrokka
Let's get some investors :P
CROWDFUNDING! :D

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 15:02
by Yslen
How much extra are we talking per order? You might find many here are happy to pay the difference to get things moving right away.

Equally, you could offer a special keycap for $X that covers some of the cost.

Just throwing out ideas here!

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 15:09
by 7bit
I posted it already: $15-$20.

I'm waiting for a new price quote for a more production-friendly order. This means for overrun at my side and smaller grab bags at SP's side. Let's see if that would work out.

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 15:17
by Yslen
7bit wrote:I posted it already: $15-$20.

I'm waiting for a new price quote for a more production-friendly order. This means for overrun at my side and smaller grab bags at SP's side. Let's see if that would work out.
Okay, fair enough. You have our thanks for your efforts :)

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 15:21
by Laser
7bit wrote: HONEY/VIM will bring you 4 VIM keys for row 1 in 4 different colors.
;-)
Where? When? :)

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 15:48
by alarmschaben
Laser wrote:
7bit wrote: HONEY/VIM will bring you 4 VIM keys for row 1 in 4 different colors.
;-)
Where? When? :)
I'd be tempted....

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 17:07
by drrtyrokka
15 € is no problem for me paying more... i would order some stuff for my tkl board

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 18:54
by bearcat
can't believe i ended up ordering more ;_;

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 18:59
by Muirium
ITS A TRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP!

I'm going to need to build more keyboards to put all these on, someday…

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 19:24
by 7bit
This is the last large group buy, ever!!!
:shock:

So, better order now!
:evilgeek:

If you miss out, you will not have a 2nd chance until the end of this universe!!!
:o :? :cry:

Posted: 20 Mar 2014, 19:45
by alinh
alarmschaben wrote:
Laser wrote:
7bit wrote: HONEY/VIM will bring you 4 VIM keys for row 1 in 4 different colors.
;-)
Where? When? :)
I'd be tempted....
So would I :o