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Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 09:43
by HzFaq
"Clicky" on an ebay listing could mean pretty much anything in my experience. In this case, that looks a lot like a generic termainal board with MX Blacks, can't really say anything more specific than that I'm afraid. Still, it looks cheap enough to take a punt on, at worst it'll be a good source for switches.
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 10:00
by IKSLM
Maybe vintage ones?
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 10:08
by HzFaq
Depends on the year of manufacture, I can't see any labels or anything showing it though. I think late 80's early 90's is the "vintage" era for blacks...I'm not sure though, personally I don't have a preference when it comes to black switches (other than Nixdorfs, but they're more or less a different switch).
Also, my comment about it being worth a punt is based on the assumption that you are a US buyer...the listing is coming up with a $45 postage fee to the UK which is about three times more than what I'd value the board at!
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 11:33
by andrewjoy
I feel there are 4 stages of MX black
Lubbed Vintage = Silk
True vintage/ nixdorf ( with the slightly lighter spring) = Awesome!
Old blacks ( old but the same 'spec' as modern(90s)) = very good
New blacks/red = Sandpaper
EDIT
4 not 3, boy i cannot count
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:01
by seebart
how do you know if their lubed though andrew without opening them? And the lube might not be 100% after all those years!
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:23
by photekq
I disagree :
New blacks -
Vintage-ish blacks 1995+ - Noticeably rough. Needs lube.
Pretty vintage blacks 1992-95 - Smooth. Needs lube though.
Very vintage blacks 1990-92 - Pretty damn smooth. You would probably struggle to tell these from true vintage switches. Lube makes them almost perfect.
True vintage 1988/89 - Perfectly smooth. Just as smooth as younger vintage blacks properly lubed, but none of the sluggishness that comes with lube.
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:33
by imbattable
I have a G80-1000 with the date code A21 here (indicating 1988 production). Is this of interest for anyone?
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:35
by photekq
imbattable wrote: I have a G80-1000 with the date code A21 here (indicating 1988 production). Is this of interest for anyone?
Yes. Give me the switches
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:41
by scottc
So basically, should "True vintage" switches have 'MADE IN WEST GERMANY' written on the board's label?
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:43
by photekq
Yes, basically
It seems that as the Berlin wall fell, so did Cherry's quality.
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:48
by vsev
If someone cares, thoses wyse I post on photo thread I don't need them, can desolder switches too.
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:49
by seebart
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 13:50
by imbattable
photekq wrote: imbattable wrote: I have a G80-1000 with the date code A21 here (indicating 1988 production). Is this of interest for anyone?
Yes. Give me the switches
I am way too bad at soldering for that
You would need to take the whole board. Space is a grey btw.
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 15:06
by andrewjoy
vsev wrote: If someone cares, thoses wyse I post on photo thread I don't need them, can desolder switches too.
ooo if you part them out can i nab a number pad - cap i broke one of mine
Posted: 06 Feb 2015, 17:05
by IvanIvanovich
Vintage blacks, so linear of course. Covered in grime/grit so be ready to spend hours and hours cleaning possibly including the switches too. You can get it for a $15 best offer.
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 01:43
by beltet
Can anyone identify these keyboards?:
1.
http://www.tradera.com/item/340827/2256 ... angentbord
2.
http://www.tradera.com/item/340827/2256 ... angentbord
3.
http://www.tradera.com/item/340827/2256 ... angentbord
The pictures are crap! But someone maybe can see what boards it is anyway. The description aint to much help... Translated it is like this:
1. very good
2. very good
3. good
BTW: is this SMK inverse cross mount?:
http://www.blocket.se/landskrona/NOSTAL ... ?ca=11&w=3
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 02:42
by Touch_It
For the top 3 boards yeah they are pretty damn crappy but appear to be RD but I'm not positive. No idea on the last keyboard.
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 11:29
by plasticchair
Cool looking Olivetti keyboard. Not MX though afaik but still nice
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Alte-Olivetti-Ta ... 20f5802cfc
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 12:08
by vsev
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 12:44
by wheybags
hngh, want, but the caps are all shiny
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 12:50
by imbattable
The bottom row on that one is pretty epic
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 14:09
by Muirium
Oooh, weird XT clone!
vs.
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 14:29
by Daniel Beardsmore
Nope, it's related to these:
[wiki]Tulip 9151B[/wiki]
Sliders over rubber dome. Whether the Windows key version still has sliders, I don't know.
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 14:33
by Daniel Beardsmore
Muirium wrote: Oooh, weird XT clone!
That's a lot like the one I saw at a radio rally. It had really tactile switches that—from peering under the keycaps—seemed to be what we now know are [wiki]Siemens STB[/wiki] switches. The one I saw said "Siemens" though, and the machine was cream colour, not grey, I think. Not the same model, but presumably part of the same product family.
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 19:00
by idollar
A mistery here:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-F-122 ... 20f5c84606
Very Old (brand new) IBM Model F keyboard. Still in original shipping packaging! from all those years ago. There is no wear at all and it makes clicking noises like you wouldn't believe. This keyboard, one of the grandfathers of the personal data input revolution has been in storage for decades. And is only now seeing the light of glorious day. Purchase her and feel the raw power and sturdiness of a keyboard heavy enough to hold your desk down.
This keyboard is brand new! and extremely rare!
On 05-Feb-15 at 10:53:04 EST, seller added the following information:
*I have added new photos to prove quality.
Look at these two pictures and lets find the differences
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- $_57 (1).JPG (105.84 KiB) Viewed 5927 times
Posted: 07 Feb 2015, 19:14
by gogusrl
maybe someone had to do a LOT of data entry between pics
Posted: 08 Feb 2015, 07:22
by Arakula
Presumably, the first picture was just taken from somewhere else, because it looks "close enough" (and better than what the seller had).
Posted: 08 Feb 2015, 08:01
by Hak Foo
Muirium wrote: Oooh, weird XT clone!
vs.
That Nixdorf box reminds me of some of the Panasonic-made XT clones; they also had built in printers and similar looking keyboards. In particular, check out the "Senior Partner" model.
http://www.thepcmuseum.net/details.php? ... seum%29=82
I wonder if it's a rebadge.
Posted: 08 Feb 2015, 12:21
by andrewjoy
Arakula wrote: Presumably, the first picture was just taken from somewhere else, because it looks "close enough" (and better than what the seller had).
i jut sent him a message asking why they are of different keyboards
Posted: 08 Feb 2015, 12:30
by facetsesame
andrewjoy wrote: Arakula wrote: Presumably, the first picture was just taken from somewhere else, because it looks "close enough" (and better than what the seller had).
i jut sent him a message asking why they are of different keyboards
Wasn't it
John Elliott's 6110344?
