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Posted: 04 Dec 2016, 21:55
by fohat
lot_lizard wrote:
made me think of the viral video from years ago "Honey Badger Don't Care" (mind the language if it offends)
Still one of the best:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
Posted: 04 Dec 2016, 21:55
by Rimrul
lot_lizard wrote: @Hypersphere... haha... made me think of the viral video from years ago "Honey Badger Don't Care" (mind the language if it offends)
Exactly what I re-watched after seeing the magical words "honey badger".
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 01:14
by lot_lizard
We close at 3:00am UTC. That is 2 hours and 46 minutes from now. If you are in the 3rd post already, or PMed interest already... you're in. Otherwise... well... you missed. Sorry
Re: Model MF - GB ENDS TODAY!!!
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 01:38
by Techno Trousers
126 kits so far. That's a great turnout, especially considering it's a really short group buy on one forum. Down the road, I'm pretty sure there will be at least that many people lamenting that they didn't get one!
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 04:49
by lot_lizard
Thanks again everyone... We are closed. If your name isn't in the 3rd post, and you are not in. We ended up at 127 (not counting myself and personal friends outside of the community), which was a great turnout for a 2-3 week GB with this complexity and cost. If you haven't got an invoice yet (<5% of you), no need to worry. I'll bill within the next couple of days.
There are a lot of pieces (mostly related to branding and finishing touches) that haven't been announced yet that I have been sorting out the past few weeks. You'll be happy. It's a real "product". Let production begin!!! I'll try to do a good job of showing the production along the way as updates since I will be directly involved (not thrown over to China). Again... Thanks for the support.
EDIT: oh... And yes... We ran out of switches. I ate into my personal reserve that I planned on keeping by 2 boards. Almost storybook ending. Highly pleased
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 06:01
by 002
Hooray! Congrats on a successful run to this point, and kudos to you for the strict deadline - 7bit could take some notes

Re: Model MF - GB CLOSED
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 09:09
by Techno Trousers
I'm glad that you found a good home for all the switches!
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 14:10
by mike52787
Whoever missed this missed out on a once in a lifetime buy. I cant wait for my MF kit, Ill actually enjoy using my ssk more! Whoever bought the 55g spring option, please report on how they feel. I was thinking about getting it, but I like the real deal F weighting too much.
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 14:15
by fohat
Techno Trousers wrote:
I'm glad that you found a good home for all the switches!
Accumulating thousands of switches in a couple of months was a large undertaking.
Going forward, one person acquiring enough switches for one keyboard will not be an impossible task.
Just be patient, Model Fs turn up regularly, if not predictably. Having the option of using both types of barrels makes it much more convenient.
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 15:27
by DMA
mike52787 wrote: Whoever missed this missed out on a once in a lifetime buy.
Why so pessimistic? Next step is key assembly production and then it's BS in 60%, 50%.. any form factor, basically!
and if alt springs pan out.. you can have your 200gf BS

Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 15:47
by lot_lizard
fohat wrote: Having the option of using both types of barrels makes it much more convenient.
This brings up a really good point that we have never really touted, but what I think sets us apart from most other keyboards (not the barrels, but the theme). Each component that makes this assembly up has a focus on interchangeability. So if some new part or discovery comes along, swapping out the old module for the new becomes a much less daunting task than a typical board.
A short list of many examples:
- DMA comes up with a new controller, slip the old one off the PCB and slap the new one on (no solder)
- "USB-D" comes out, replace the daughter board
- Bluetooth gets enabled one day. It could be integrated into a controller, new USB daughter board, or something in the middle
- A "better" spring is discovered
- a quieter but equally crisp flipper comes along
- switching up key layouts
- even better foam
- ...
It really is one of the most modular designs all the way around that I can think of (requiring only a screwdriver and a set of hands), and I personally think that is what makes it special. I am confident people will enjoy it out of the gate, but the part that is going to make me happy is to see future projects built around this base assembly... the true "tinker's" board (at least that is my hope). IBM's keyboard designs really did lend themselves to an "open system" (even though they were attached to "closed system" servers). We have just embraced that even further.
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 15:58
by livingspeedbump
Yeah, this will truly be a forever keyboard indeed, with a lot of thanks to how modular it really is. Out of all my keyboards I have very, very few I'd never consider selling, this will surely be one of them.
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 19:08
by lot_lizard
Everyone that participated received a PM shortly ago. If this is something that is interesting, please take the steps to make it happen in short order if you would. We are in the "new world order" group buy here. Things MOVE, and stragglers from the herd are left behind

Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 19:30
by Phenix
I am excited!
next step: the B-15

Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 19:32
by wobbled
Well I sure have treated myself this Christmas... A beamspring, Ellipse's Model F, and now Model F internals for my Industrial SSK. God I love this place. It's fucking heaven.
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 19:35
by chzel
wobbled wrote: It's fucking heaven.
Or hell...depends if you ask me, or my bank account!

Model MF - GB CLOSED
Posted: 05 Dec 2016, 19:40
by mike52787
lot_lizard wrote:Everyone that participated received a PM shortly ago. If this is something that is interesting, please take the steps to make it happen in short order if you would. We are in the "new world order" group buy here. Things MOVE, and stragglers from the herd are left behind

I didnt get a PM.
edit: nevermind, tapatalk just sucks
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 16:33
by lot_lizard
Just posted the final metrics to the 3rd OP. Some interesting information on the whole if you haven't looked. Our polling really was helpful throughout to form a clear picture of all of this.
Everyone has been awesome about getting these invoices knocked out as well. Just two left to get out on my part, but they are to folks who have been ENTRENCHED in this from the beginning. We still need to test this latest version of the PCBs I have in, and will as soon as I receive the new controller Phosphorglow was nice enough to solder together for us.
And with that... I think we are officially "shovel ready". Let production commence on the parts that are tested and proven already. I will try to post as many pics as possible along the journey (hopefully with more substance than the one below)

Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 17:21
by drevyek
A question I had- are we doing anything for a new label for the backs of these? I recall a post about 1391337...
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 17:27
by lot_lizard
drevyek wrote: A question I had- are we doing anything for a new label for the backs of these? I recall a post about 1391337...
Very much so... It will be drawn from the sticker that Techno Trousers put together for us with a couple of minor tweaks now that we are "branded". For anyone having us assemble them, that will be filled in. For others, it will be similar to below.

Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 17:29
by Wodan
LOL you're nerds
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 17:30
by webwit
Will it have rgb quality control dots?
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 17:33
by lot_lizard
Wodan wrote: LOL you're
l33t nerds
Damn straight... with the correction above though
webwit wrote: Will it have rgb quality control dots?

Genius... it will now!!!
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 17:34
by drevyek
On the cable front, I know that there are a few places that will do custom cabling (Keyclack comes to mind for the NA crowd, Pexon for across the water). I'm sure we could do something with getting a few nice coiled USB-B/C cables to go along with this.
lot_lizard wrote: drevyek wrote: A question I had- are we doing anything for a new label for the backs of these? I recall a post about 1391337...
Very much so... It will be drawn from the sticker that Techno Trousers put together for us with a couple of minor tweaks now that we are "branded". For anyone having us assemble them, that will be filled in. For others, it will be similar to below.
There it is!
Wodan wrote: LOL you're nerds

NEERRDDSSS
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 18:06
by alh84001
lot_lizard wrote:
webwit wrote: Will it have rgb quality control dots?

Genius... it will now!!!
Is it wrong for me to giggle over this?

Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 18:20
by E TwentyNine
lot_lizard wrote:

For those of you wondering what the 2D barcode decodes to:
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:05
by POTV
Great idea with the stickers - but that almost calls for new cases, right

Re: Model MF - GB CLOSED
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:35
by Techno Trousers
POTV wrote:Great idea with the stickers - but that almost calls for new cases, right

Phase 2 baby, phase 2. And actually, this particular sticker is intended to go on the back of the inner assembly bottom plate, as an homage to the original IBM parts stickers with manufacture dates and QC signatures.
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:42
by POTV
Okay, okay - I'll hold my breath...
Posted: 06 Dec 2016, 19:50
by ramnes
CNC'd SSK case à la KMAC? Count me in.
