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Posted: 17 Jan 2014, 20:26
by snoopy
Why we have no windowed key?

Posted: 17 Jan 2014, 20:42
by 7bit
I HATE WINDOWS!
:mad:

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals / taking orders!

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 00:05
by Yslen
7bit wrote:I HATE WINDOWS!
:mad:
Wow. Your house must be really dark :(

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 00:20
by 7bit
To the contrary!
:o

With X11 the SUN always shines!
:ugeek:

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 00:21
by beltet
Incognito wrote:
facetsesame wrote:That percentage revision gave me quite a scare!

Shame about the tooling, but with the new deadline could we raise time and money for grey language packs? :lol:
7bit wrote:Pay as often as you like, but don't pay amounts less than $25.
:mad:
To pay, add more keys! ;)
GREY Language Packs - YESS, PLEASE :D
I would buy a full grey kit and white mods if this became reality.

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 00:22
by beltet
Yslen wrote:
7bit wrote:I HATE WINDOWS!
:mad:
Wow. Your house must be really dark :(
Ha!
7bit wrote:To the contrary!
:o

With X11 the SUN always shines!
:ugeek:
Lol

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals / taking orders!

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 01:54
by jefferai
7bit wrote:To the contrary!
:o

With X11 the SUN always shines!
:ugeek:
And you drown in Wayland?

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals / taking orders!

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 05:27
by John Fourth
7bit, do we have time to add a new kit? How about the symbol keys from round 4, but on these sweet sphericals?

Re: Round 5 / Honey Sphericals / taking orders!

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 07:52
by ray4jc
Must stop looking..... keep wanting to buy more....

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 07:55
by 7bit
John Fourth wrote:7bit, do we have time to add a new kit? How about the symbol keys from round 4, but on these sweet sphericals?
Never!

The symbols where a failure and would cost quite a lot, plus I don't really want to add stuff that pushes up the prices.

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 09:23
by 7bit
Kits of the day:
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HONEY/UK
price: $6

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HONEY/NUMNUM/BLACK
price: $14

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HONEY/CURSOR/R4/BLACK
price: $8

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HONEY/RETURN225/RED
price: $3

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HONEY/ALPHA/GREY
price: $45

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HONEY/POS
price: $49

:o

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 11:35
by kfmfe04
facetsesame wrote:
kfmfe04 wrote:btw, has anyone figured out the sets needed for a Kinesis layout?

on gh http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=23446.390, I see a posting of a breakdown (towards the end of that page, there is a chart), but I'm afraid to get this to match out with Round 5 would take a computer program to figure out...
Or a sufficiently helpful-feeling human who has some familiarity with the kits...

The range of keys in Round 5 allows quite a lot of this to be done as shown. All the 1.25 mods are available as are the row 4 cursor keys. However the 1.25 punctuation and the other unusual row 4 keys aren't available, and 2 unit keys aren't available in row 4, only in the steep row 1 or the symmetric row 3. The blank availability though is enough to make up the layout.

To cover the pictured layout, I would go for something like this:
HONEY/ALPHA 1 - Covers the two 5x3 alpha blocks, change for language as applicable
HONEY/NUMROW/WHITE 1 - For the row 1 numbers, also includes row 2 [ and ] keys that can mounted upside down to be the row 4 [ and ]
HONEY/MODEXTRA125 1 - For the 1.25 Tab and Caps Lock
HONEY/SHIFT125 2 - Self explanatory :)
HONEY/CURSOR/R4 1 - All the row 4 cursor keys! :D
HONEY/MOD100 1 - For the single unit Ctrls
HONEY/MODEXTRA100 1 - For the single unit Alts
HONEY/CURSORBASE 1 - Home, End, Page Up and Page Down in their standard rows

Additional required blanks:
BLANK/R3U125/GREY 4 - This includes 2 for row 1 - row 1 1.25 blanks aren't available
BLANK/R2U100/GREY 4 - Equal to and used as row 4 keys (deduct 2 if using the row 2 [ and ] keys from NUMROW/WHITE or option 2)
BLANK/R3U200/GREY 4 - (deduct 1 if using option 1b)

Options:
1a HONEY/NUMNUM/WHITE 1 - Gets you the row 2 "8" key, but no "3" is available (you could have an upside down "3" by using the "3" key in this kit)
1b HONEY/NUMPAD 1 - Same as above but also gets you a row 3 2u Enter
2 HONEY/7BIT 1 - This has two grey row 2 curly bracket keys, which could be used an alternative to the [ and ] in NUMROW/WHITE
Thank you for figuring that out!

I wonder if another route would be to take an ERGO set and add a few keys - I will use your suggestion and try to figure that out now.

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 20:04
by doub
Is there any chance we could have the MODEXTRA150 in black?

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 20:23
by mtl
snoopy wrote:Why we have no windowed key?
Do you mean keys with a clear LED window (like the Commando set) or mods with MS WIndows logo? If the former then I'm with you. :-) Maybe some blank (to reach MOQ) 1x keys with windows and 1.75 stepped windowed caps lock?

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 20:34
by 7bit
doub wrote:Is there any chance we could have the MODEXTRA150 in black?
How many will you take?

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 22:22
by morkl
farinasa_ wrote:So now we have time to try for the HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE?

:D
Seems like it, these appeared stealthily last night:

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HONEY/ERGO/WHITE        |  1| 76|  149|USD|ErgoDox white kit +_(LQ1)
HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE    |   | 36|  129|USD|ErgoDox base white kit +_(LQ1)
HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3 |   | 36|   96|USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +_(LQ1)
I'm looking forward to making an all-white ergodox with one of czarek's PVC cases :D

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 22:26
by 7bit
Order more to ket the per kit price down!
:-)

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 22:28
by doub
7bit wrote:
doub wrote:Is there any chance we could have the MODEXTRA150 in black?
How many will you take?
Just the one. Probably not worth your time, but if others are interested I'd take one. Actually what I'm after is regular first column but all keys in 150 width. I'll try with other kits.

Posted: 18 Jan 2014, 22:48
by snoopy
I tried to puzzle together a HONEY/FORTY/BLACK myself... but ended a bit expensive.

Would it be possible to add it without creating too many "new" keys?

my attempt was:
HONEY/REDESCAPE/R2
HONEY/CURSORBASE/BLACK (the black "DELETE" key from this kit)
HONEY/ALPHAINT/BLACK
HONEY/FUNCTION/RED (red 1.75 "TRANSMIT" key as return)
HONEY/SHIFT125/BLACK
HONEY/SHIFT175/BLACK

so now the problems start and this is the point where it gets way too expensive:
I found a FN key in HONEY/TENKLESS/GRAPHITE. this kit also has 1.25 alt and control.

still missing: 1.0 win and alt. I personally don't need a win key, so anything different would also be ok (super, meta, whatever) don't know about alt.
1.25 TAB... I don't need "TAB" on it and would replace it with command. ah, and that single dot. maybe just a .: from HONEY/INTER/BLACK

ok, after reading through my crap again.... maybe its too special and I should wait for leftovers and build it myself or just forget it

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 01:00
by farinasa_
morkl wrote:
farinasa_ wrote:So now we have time to try for the HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE?

:D
Seems like it, these appeared stealthily last night:

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HONEY/ERGO/WHITE        |  1| 76|  149|USD|ErgoDox white kit +_(LQ1)
HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE    |   | 36|  129|USD|ErgoDox base white kit +_(LQ1)
HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3 |   | 36|   96|USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +_(LQ1)
I'm looking forward to making an all-white ergodox with one of czarek's PVC cases :D

My god I hadn't even noticed. 7bit is the shit!

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 09:40
by 7bit
Kits of the day:
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HONEY/MOD150
price: $14

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HONEY/TKL/BLACK
price: $75

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HONEY/SIXTY125BASE/RED
price: $21

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HONEY/SHIFT150/R4
price: $2

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HONEY/CAPS175S/BLACK
price: $4

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HONEY/MOD200
price: $9

:o

Some prices went down:

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old HONEY/ERGO/WHITE      | 76|149 USD|ErgoDox white kit +
new HONEY/ERGO/WHITE      | 76| 99 USD|ErgoDox white kit +

old HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE  | 36|129 USD|ErgoDox base white kit +
new HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE  | 36| 79 USD|ErgoDox base white kit +

old HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3|36| 96 USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +
new HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3|36| 65 USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +

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old HONEY/DT/GREY         |  2|  3 USD|DT keys (rows 1 and 3; grey)
new HONEY/DT/GREY         |  2|  2 USD|DT keys (rows 1 and 3; grey)

old HONEY/DT/RED          |  2|  3 USD|DT keys (rows 1 and 3; red)
new HONEY/DT/RED          |  2|  2 USD|DT keys (rows 1 and 3; red)

old HONEY/DT/WHITE        |  2|  3 USD|DT keys (rows 1 and 3; white)
new HONEY/DT/WHITE        |  2|  2 USD|DT keys (rows 1 and 3; white)

old HONEY/FORTY/BASE      | 12| 15 USD|40 percent base kit
new HONEY/FORTY/BASE      | 12| 12 USD|40 percent base kit

old HONEY/SPACE700/RED    |  1|  4 USD|Space (7 units; red)
new HONEY/SPACE700/RED    |  1|  3 USD|Space (7 units; red)


:-)

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 11:14
by 7bit
Prices went down again:

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old HONEY/ERGO/WHITE      | 76| 99 USD|ErgoDox white kit +
new HONEY/ERGO/WHITE      | 76| 89 USD|ErgoDox white kit +

old HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE  | 36| 79 USD|ErgoDox base white kit +
new HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE  | 36| 59 USD|ErgoDox base white kit +

old HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3|36| 65 USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +
new HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3|36| 59 USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +
:o

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 11:21
by mintberryminuscrunch
Now that I finally payed up :lol:

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 11:28
by Muirium
Sucker!

I added a TENKLESS/WHITE because I'm an optimistic fool. And I see in my invoice that TENKLESS/RED is more popular than the classic TENKLESS. I have all of them ordered. Let's see if we can get those prices down, eh?

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 11:30
by 7bit
The white stuff is still underpriced (think bargain price :evilgeek: ), but the ERGO white prices are real and will go down further with more orders.

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 11:36
by Muirium
How about the red?

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 11:40
by 7bit
The only problematic kits are:
HONEY/INTER/RED (along with its black brother)
HONEY/CURSYM125/RED
HONEY/SPACE400/RED
HONEY/SPACE450/RED

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 12:34
by Muirium
Oh no, my 4 unit red space is 50% of the order!

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 15:41
by 7bit
I really don't understand why people order the ERGO/*/WHITE kits and then delete them again, once the prices went down.
:o

Here are the new prices:

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old HONEY/ERGO/WHITE        | 76| 89 USD|ErgoDox white kit +
new HONEY/ERGO/WHITE        | 76|149 USD|ErgoDox white kit +

old HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE    | 36| 59 USD|ErgoDox base white kit +
new HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE    | 36|129 USD|ErgoDox base white kit +

old HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3 | 36| 59 USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +
new HONEY/ERGOBASE/WHITE/R3 | 36| 99 USD|ErgoDox row 3 base white kit +

:evil:

Posted: 19 Jan 2014, 16:06
by Devou
7bit wrote:I really don't understand why people order the ERGO/*/WHITE kits and then delete them again, once the prices went down.
I'm really sorry about that, but I have decided that ergo/red/white is better for me.
:(