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Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 14:56
by webwit
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 15:21
by cookie
I will have a look when I am at home.
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 15:45
by Halvar
Can we start collecting the "proper error message" in all languages?

Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 15:49
by Muirium
I'd rather simply auto strip the sig. Always, always!, bet on people's laziness.
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 20:26
by Muirium
Oh wow, look who paid up:
DT's PayPal wrote:Tapatalk Inc. sent you $10,26 USD
That's Tapatalk's big affiliate bucks right there. Not just for the length of this wee thread, but for all the time we've supported them. Let's spend it all on something wild, like a cheap keypuller or maybe some gum!
And let's scrub that crap off our forum. Good luck, Cookie! Remember: search for the string "Sent from my [whatever] using Tapatalk" and zap that line plus the blank line above it. Leave other mentions of the app's name intact. Some people host their attachments there, foolishly! Then lets see if they even notice our resistance to their lazy assed spam.
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 21:08
by cookie
I can't do it that easy, the default signature is generated by the system language but I am very positive about getting rid of it. But first I have to send a Korean guy some money

Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 22:01
by Findecanor
cookie wrote:
The best way to get rid of the signature would be if we scan the post before it's sent and then parse the last line, if it contains a match on a simple Tapatalk pattern just delete it, or even better. Deny the post with an proper error message.
Even better would be if the Tapaalk user could be able to switch off signatures and retry posting, without losing the post contents.
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 22:24
by chuckdee
cookie wrote: DT is based on phpBB, how hard can this be?

Famous final words...
Muirium wrote: Oh wow, look who paid up:
DT's PayPal wrote:Tapatalk Inc. sent you $10,26 USD
That's Tapatalk's big affiliate bucks right there. Not just for the length of this wee thread, but for all the time we've supported them. Let's spend it all on something wild, like a cheap keypuller or maybe some gum!
What period is that for? Is it just since Webwit said he'd updated the settings?
Re: Tapatalk Sig Spam Pisses Me Off
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 22:25
by cookie
That is the goal, just get the signature and remove it
Posted: 08 Jun 2016, 22:51
by Muirium
Exactly. This crap is Tapatalk's fault, not its users. The app shouldn't leave a mess all over the place (indeed it even hides the fact from its users) so we're just cleaning up!
@Chuck: Pretty certain that payment will be for the lifetime of DT's use of their plugin. Seems a bit optimistic for a couple of weeks! Anyway, DT's a club,
maintained entirely by us members. We don't run ads. And they never ran this by us. Indeed, we always opted out before they sneaked that away.
Posted: 09 Jun 2016, 04:25
by chuckdee
If it were for a couple of weeks, and you can programmatically remove it without breaking their TOS, wouldn't that be a win/win though? A one time payment seems rather... short sighted on their part.
Posted: 10 Jun 2016, 18:09
by chuckdee
I was curious, so did a bit more investigation. In the app, there is the option to show advertisements. If you do, then there is revenue sharing with the site for the ads shown during your visits. If you don't, then the site gets nothing, as you don't see the ads. It's totally up to the user.
Also, if you upload images via the tapatalk application, the image is hosted on their CDN, rather than being on the site.
For instance, I know that MrBishop uses tapatalk, so I looked at his posts.
In the thread:
keyboards-f2/dataluxxx-space-saver-rein ... 13949.html
His images show the source as
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/2016060 ... 61d514.jpg
So if the tapatalk content servers are slow or go down for some reason, that content is lost.
In my opinion, that's the larger offense- making your site depend on someone else's server for content without it being transparent.
But just wanted to post the information.
Posted: 10 Jun 2016, 19:25
by Halvar
Interesting ... So we would also need a routine to free our attachments from Tapatalk's CDN.
I wonder if we're even allowed to do that though under copyright laws.
It also means that they get the IP address of everyone reading the thread, not only Tapatalk users. Evil schemes...
EDIT: Tapatalk-CDN.com (of course) also places an ID cookie on every thread reader's machine so they can track all users of the forum, not only tapatalk users, and find out which other forums they use.
Posted: 10 Jun 2016, 19:27
by Muirium
You Tapatalk users better read your EULA. You agreed to it!
Posted: 10 Jun 2016, 19:32
by Halvar
DT should maybe also re-read the Tapatalk EULA because we agreed to it ...
Posted: 10 Jun 2016, 20:02
by Muirium
Before my time. As you've heard, I'd like to "take them to a farm out in the country", if you know what I mean.
Posted: 10 Jun 2016, 22:02
by chuckdee
Muirium wrote: You Tapatalk users better read your EULA. You agreed to it!
Already did, as I normally do. I didn't see anything more problematic than in most EULAs these days. Unless there's something that you saw that you want to point out.
And tapatalk provides more than just the ability to use this one particular board. I don't have to navigate to several sites to see them and interact, and I can more easily follow the sites in my feeds- almost like an RSS aggregator. So it does provide a need for my use case.
Oh, and for anyone who hasn't read it, I figured it might be good to post it:
https://tapatalk.com/end-user-license-agreement.php
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 02:43
by Muirium
As may be apparent: I'm no user of their software! And when they're up to evil stuff like Halvar spotted, I'd rather chuck them off the forum than play their games.
Halvar wrote: It also means that they get the IP address of everyone reading the thread, not only Tapatalk users. Evil schemes...
EDIT: Tapatalk-CDN.com (of course) also places an ID cookie on every thread reader's machine so they can track all users of the forum, not only tapatalk users, and find out which other forums they use.
I don't see a Tapatalk cookie in my desktop browser cache, but then I do use Ghostery which would presumably block it.
Are we really going to allow this kind of shit?
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 03:24
by chuckdee
Muirium wrote: As may be apparent: I'm no user of their software! And when they're up to evil stuff like Halvar spotted, I'd rather chuck them off the forum than play their games.
Halvar wrote: It also means that they get the IP address of everyone reading the thread, not only Tapatalk users. Evil schemes...
EDIT: Tapatalk-CDN.com (of course) also places an ID cookie on every thread reader's machine so they can track all users of the forum, not only tapatalk users, and find out which other forums they use.
I don't see a Tapatalk cookie in my desktop browser cache, but then I do use Ghostery which would presumably block it.
Are we really going to allow this kind of shit?
I haven't seen any indication of this. And with the new laws (the reason we see that cookie crap everywhere now), I'd think that a company as small as that one would be stupid to try it. Especially with users that don't agree to their EULA.
Whatever the majority decides is how it will go. But I do know that it will cut down my reading and posting if it happens, for whatever that is worth. Not sure how others feel about it.
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 13:25
by Halvar
AFAIK the 'cookie crap' warnings on websites aren't due to a new law, but due to something Google requires of webmasters using their ads or analytics.
You don't have a cookie from the domain tapatalk-cdn.com? I have one, in spite of using Ghostery.
Posted: 11 Jun 2016, 19:01
by chuckdee
Halvar wrote: AFAIK the 'cookie crap' warnings on websites aren't due to a new law, but due to something Google requires of webmasters using their ads or analytics.
You don't have a cookie from the domain tapatalk-cdn.com? I have one, in spite of using Ghostery.
No I don't. But I stopped using Ghostery once I realized that
they pimp us out, and are owned by an Ad company.
I started using
Disconnect, so maybe that's the reason that I don't have one?
And, I don't think it's google.
http://ec.europa.eu/ipg/basics/legal/co ... #section_2
https://www.cookielaw.org/faq/
There are also laws appearing in different municipalities in the US to the same effect.
Do you have any references to the contrary, i.e. that it is google that's causing this?