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Posted: 25 Oct 2014, 19:25
by seebart
It has part number 4176191, which is supposed to be a Model F. Perhaps there was a mix-up on the labeling somewhere.
still doesn't explain the plastic bottom.
Posted: 25 Oct 2014, 19:39
by Hypersphere
The box has P/N 4176191 and the label on the back has P/N 1397950. Both numbers are associated with the Model F "Bigfoot". Are you sure the bottom is plastic? It sure looks like webwit's Bigfoot find:
http://deskthority.net/photos-f62/ibm-m ... -t158.html
All except the later date and the "M" designation on the label.
Posted: 25 Oct 2014, 20:03
by seebart
It sure looks like webwit's Bigfoot find:
You´re right it does look the same.Well it´s nothing really new then.

Still quite rare.
Posted: 25 Oct 2014, 21:37
by Hypersphere
seebart wrote: It sure looks like webwit's Bigfoot find:
You´re right it does look the same.Well it´s nothing really new then.

Still quite rare.
If it is a mislabeling, for keyboard collectors this item could become akin to the inverted Graf Zeppelin of philately.

Posted: 25 Oct 2014, 21:39
by gogusrl
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 02:45
by fohat
seebart wrote: It has part number 4176191, which is supposed to be a Model F. Perhaps there was a mix-up on the labeling somewhere.
still doesn't explain the plastic bottom.
Berserk Fan has an (actual) Model F keyboard or keypad with metal plate and separate barrels that was labeled "Model M"
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 09:19
by Halvar
My guess is that the label is from a different keyboard altogether. I don't buy that Lexmark made this keyboard in 1996.
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 09:24
by gogusrl
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 13:27
by Nuum
Be careful with that AEG Olympia keyboard, it has some lasered keycaps, e.g. on some F-keys.
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 13:40
by Daniel Beardsmore
That Leading Edge one should be Alps (the one listed on the wiki is blue Alps, with double-shot keycaps)
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 14:57
by webwit
Lexmark probably just had some Bigfoot NOS, which they kept available for customers as replacement parts. Wouldn't read too much in the label they stamped on them.
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 17:34
by guk
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 17:51
by gogusrl
well that's new (at least for me).
I'd like that double shot spacebar, the rest are hideous.
Posted: 26 Oct 2014, 18:27
by crunch
Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 13:59
by gogusrl
Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 15:06
by shreebles
Buyers beware. These two are not actually mechanical.
The first one has some kind of rubber dome plunger switch. Their marketing claims that they imitate a mechanical switch but I remain doubtful. I reported the seller because he is purposely putting false information in the auction title.
The Cherry is a G83 rubberdome. What an ass, calling that dirty old keyboard "TOP like new"
Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 15:46
by kbdfr
I always wonder why people post endless lists of eBay auctions for:
- worthless stuff they obviously know nothing about (like
this) or
- interesting stuff everybody would be able to find anyway (like
this) or
- stuff where buyers obviously won't get what they expect (like
this).
And I still think posting all interesting but somewhat hidden stuff like
this
(where only the additional pics reveal the caps are dyesubs)
just helps people too lazy to search themselves and discourages others to try and find.

Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 19:47
by seebart
just helps people too lazy to search themselves and discourages others to try and find.
Well then this thread has to be closed or moderated(which is not worth it).
I still wonder why people keep mentioning this point again since this thread was started over a year ago!
What makes a "Great/Interesting Finds" is relative anyway, although I do agree with some of your expamles kbdfr!

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Nixdorf Computer PC 8810/25 CPC PC 02
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Nixdorf-Computer ... 20eec7e4f1
COMMODORE CBM 8032-SK
http://www.ebay.de/itm/1980-COMMODORE-C ... 19f58711bc
Apple Macintosh
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mac-Classic-/231 ... 35de8cc24e
Apple Macintosh ED - M0001D
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Apple-Macintosh- ... 1c481e0f14
Compaq Portable III
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Compaq-Portable- ... 2597a02cef
Apple Extended Keyboard II ADB Macintosh QWERTZ
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Apple-Extended-K ... 2343138f6a
Amstrad Schneider CPC Grün Green Monitor GT 64
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Amstrad-Schneide ... 43d1882463
Sharp MZ-731 (MZ-700-Serie)
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Sharp-MZ-731-MZ- ... 2a46651e4a
Triumph Adler PC 1700
http://www.ebay.de/itm/1985-Triumph-Adl ... 19f58746ed
Acorn Electron Computer OVP -NOS-
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Acorn-Electron-C ... 3ceae3dfad
Texas Instruments TI-99/ 4A Home Computer in OVP
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Texas-Instrument ... 2341387501
Robotron EAW P8000 Terminal
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Tastatur-Robotro ... 58b75d9cda
Strange Apple II computer
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Apple-II-im-Geha ... 1356571494

Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 20:09
by gogusrl
just helps people too lazy to search themselves and discourages others to try and find
First of all, I'm not gonna do this forever (still new and excited about all this but I'm not sure how long that's gonna last).
Second of all, the truly great deals are kept secret. I love you guys, but I'm not gonna open the flood gates on shit I want.
Third, posting them here and giving someone else a shot at them provides some kind of validation for all my hours of browsing ebay (and not buying much).
Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 20:16
by seebart
I love you guys, but I'm not gonna open the flood gates on shit I want.
that´s another good point. I do that, everyone does. I have even had users PM me not to post links.
But why are we posting at all then?
Second of all, the truly great deals are kept secret
if it´s on ebay it´s not a secret, unless the discription is way off.
Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 21:50
by quantalume
I like this thread because I don't search eBay for everything keyboard related, mostly old IBM boards. Someone else might post another interesting vintage board or even something new that I wouldn't be otherwise looking for. Also, this forum is international. It's nice to see what folks are finding on the other side of the pond.
Posted: 27 Oct 2014, 22:05
by ramnes
I don't see the problem of sharing links about things that doesn't interest you, but that might interest someone else.
I spend hours on Ebay and other similar websites every week, and though I am typing right now on a keyboard that someone posted here. I just didn't see because it was listed in Germany.

Posted: 28 Oct 2014, 05:35
by Hak Foo
That's what I see here too. I figure "if you wanted it, you'd have bought it"... I see plenty of things that feel like they'd appeal to the DT audience, but won't suit my personal needs.
Posted: 28 Oct 2014, 08:01
by kbdfr
Well, I agree with all of you
Except that I really doubt anybody on DT will be interested in a Cherry G83 rubberdome keyboard with not MX compatible keycaps humorously lasered with comments in Hessian dialect (
first example in my post).
And except that I think nobody searching eBay for Cherry keyboards will miss an auction were the title says "CHERRY G81-1251 HAD" (
second example in my post).
And except that I do not wish to anyone interested in a "SELTENE AEG OLYMPIA (CHERRY) TASTATUR" to spend 40 € for a keyboard where the obviously ignorant commercial seller has mixed lasered and doubleshot caps from different keyboards, like his other sales show (
third example in my post).
Don't misunderstand me, I'm not opposed to posting "Great/Interesting Finds", even if of course I happen to wish an item particularly interesting for me would have been kept secret from all those who did not even search for it but just read here about it. My post above explicitely states "
endless lists" of stuff and "posting
all […] stuff".
Besides, I think it is not a good idea to point to eBay auctions without mentioning possible caveats (like in the third example above). shreebles or others
point to such caveats sometimes, sometimes not.
For example, if someone happens to be interested in the
CHERRY MY 3000 QWERTZ which has been posted yesterday, they should be conscious of the fact that the pics have obviously (completely different seller) been stolen from the
one with the dyesubs which had ended just before and thus they will not get what they see.
So my point is that this thread should deserve its title: "Great/Interesting Finds".
Posted: 28 Oct 2014, 11:45
by Muirium
Yup. Bare links are no good. Especially with gotchas. Work harder!
Says a lazy guy like me who doesn't often search ebay at all. But I do like this thread, as it's often plain amusing. Thus the notoriously overpriced links and suspicious ones we often point to. WITH DESCRIPTIONS, please! Interesting isn't always the same thing as great.
Like Quantalume, I like to see what's going on abroad, too. And let's be honest: I picked up a handful of sweet finds through this: one of Webwit's tipped Siig Minitouches, which turned out to be NIB Montereys, on Marktplaatz not ebay; and a nice AEK II Snoopy conveniently proxied for me along with an M0110 I was buying from him already. In return there was that SSK I tipped and Halvar bagged.
It's nice not to be alone amongst the ebay sharks. Even if it does mean more of us also find the lambs!
Posted: 29 Oct 2014, 17:53
by gogusrl
Commodore Amiga 2000 Keyboard & Mouse (I think it's a Cherry G80-0904 inside). 1h left
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Commodore-Amiga- ... 1493465837
Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 00:59
by Hypersphere
IBM Beamspring. Looks to be in excellent condition:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Beam-Spring ... 43d1ab46ab

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Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 01:02
by Muirium
Better be for three hunder…
Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 08:49
by seebart
IBM Beamspring. Looks to be in excellent condition
there´s a candidate for me right there...but it´s on the wrong side of the pond, those are even rarer here in the EU.

Posted: 31 Oct 2014, 10:31
by andrewjoy
Is it wrong that i want to buy that beamspring for the caps to put on my one ?