deskthority

I have to admit that I don't really understand why the numpad kits have ~ and &. What do you use those for when you enter numbers? Wouldn't %, $, € or backspace be handier there?

7bit wrote:

facetsesame wrote:...
Thanks for that! So I'll use a normal Enter, then if I do want a 2u + I'll need a POS key and to disable one of the switches. I just can't decide if I want to do that or go with 1u for the rest - for me the lack of a 2u + is the most annoying thing about 122 layouts.

U mad???


I'd like them to be 1 units all of them. With the 1 unit + key you get an extra key which I use for &.

I suppose I need to try more, but habit makes me hit the middle of the 2u + key, so I never seem to get on well with two different keys there. I'm also not sure what I would want in the gap, I don't concatenate numbers much so wouldn't find & too useful, % maybe, but then the magic of the 8200 is that there's an extra column next door for a good selection of useful symbols (or silly keys). Tab and backspace are also cool to have there. I guess the answer is to buy as many keys as possible to cover all options

7bit wrote:I'm looking into thetriangle arrow issue ...

The lack of a specific row 2 UP in all the cursor kits can be addressed by buying an additional kit (to get an additional row 4 DOWN which can be rotated 180 degrees, making a row 2 UP by magic). Aren't you in favour of this?

facetsesame wrote:

7bit wrote:I'm looking into thetriangle arrow issue ...

The lack of a specific row 2 UP in all the cursor kits can be addressed by buying an additional kit (to get an additional row 4 DOWN which can be rotated 180 degrees, making a row 2 UP by magic). Aren't you in favour of this?

I'm all in favour of sneaky bits of magic.

The arrow I'm most after is row 2 UP in the triangle kits, of course, which I have ordered in black and might extend to other colours too. But those other cursor kits become more interesting with row 2 + row 4 support, too.

By the way: is Jefferai still good for PayPal? I finally have the dollars to make a decent payment today!

Muirium wrote:

facetsesame wrote:

7bit wrote:I'm looking into thetriangle arrow issue ...

The lack of a specific row 2 UP in all the cursor kits can be addressed by buying an additional kit (to get an additional row 4 DOWN which can be rotated 180 degrees, making a row 2 UP by magic). Aren't you in favour of this?

I'm all in favour of sneaky bits of magic.

The arrow I'm most after is row 2 UP in the triangle kits, of course, which I have ordered in black and might extend to other colours too. But those other cursor kits become more interesting with row 2 + row 4 support, too.

By the way: is Jefferai still good for PayPal? I finally have the dollars to make a decent payment today!

Use whoever the latest invoice tells you to use. I think there's a way to have the bot resend an invoice...maybe a blank message?

Just checking that this GB hasn't maxed out your PayPal like it did for Megnin!

Muirium wrote:Just checking that this GB hasn't maxed out your PayPal like it did for Megnin!

It might at some point but not yet

Okay, there's my payment. Thanks for helping out with the GB.

Muirium wrote:Okay, there's my payment. Thanks for helping out with the GB.

Got it and it's been recorded. Thank you for sending me all of your monies.

Halvar wrote:I have to admit that I don't really understand why the numpad kits have ~ and &. What do you use those for when you enter numbers? Wouldn't %, $, € or backspace be handier there?

~/* is very useful when navigating through the directory hirarchy. & is also usefull for typing things like netscape & and then RUN afterwards to start the program.

I'm not sure about the CURSORS kit pic vs the list on the 16th:
Everything matches except the three row 2 arrow keys. Instead there are the following two keys (so total 21 instead of 22):
HONEY/CURSORS |R4U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |\uparrow - this is the row 2 \downarrow
HONEY/CURSORS |R2U100 |WFK (White)|GPA (Gray) |UP - this isn't shown in the pic

So the pic shows a row 2 left and right arrow that aren't on the list, instead of these the list has a row 2 UP key.

Are you able to keep the row 2 UP as on the list, and also add the missing row 2 \uparrow we've been longing for to the list? This will total 22 keys like in the picture. To keep the number of keys at 22, the row 2 \leftarrow and \rightarrow can be removed, as they already exist as the row 4 arrow keys. Here's my suggestion: I hope this makes sense.

7bit wrote:No, prices might go down again. That's why I ask for 50% payment.

[edit] nvm, thought about it, I can't math. Disregard. By paying 100% now I may have lost out on a dollar or two if there is a refund. Oh well, no biggie.

Sure does make sense, facetsesame. I'd love to see this implemented in the triangle arrow kits too. Concave cursor options for all!

Sorry, just uploaded the current */CURSORS version.


They contain all keys except the duplicate row 4 left right arrows (which are the same as row 2 right left) and with the extra row 2 UP.

7bit wrote: netscape &

lol

7bit wrote:Sorry, just uploaded the current */CURSORS version.


They contain all keys except the duplicate row 4 left right arrows (which are the same as row 2 right left) and with the extra row 2 UP.

Aha, thank you! So, good news: Row 2 UP is included and duplicate keys are not!
Bad news: kit is "now" "only" 21 keys instead of 22 and doesn't have the magic row 2 \uparrow key. So a second kit is still required for 2/4 or 2/3/4.
How do you best phrase this? 2/4 is a musical time signature, 2 up/2 down is a terraced house...

Muirium wrote:Sure does make sense, facetsesame. I'd love to see this implemented in the triangle arrow kits too. Concave cursor options for all!

Thanks The CURSYM kits though don't seem to have had the same situation, all the legends are reversible and there were no duplicated keys.

So after that last pic update, it's confirmed the CURSOR and CURSYM are the same: an extra row 2 up must be begged to be added or two kits bought. Somehow I feel as if I'm back where I started.

@7bit

Hi, I've just tried to send you a bank transfer on the website of my bank but they don't accept it without an address. Could you send it to me please ?

TY

Is this really SEPA transfer?

yeah some banks ask for the address of the recipient.

Just ordered - my first group buy!
Exciting stuff.

Someone must try a dummy address to see what happens.

Any news on CAT?

Also 7bit, can you check PMs re payment question?

7bit wrote:Someone must try a dummy address to see what happens.

Your dummy addresses are the best

Walter Cherry
1600HAP Cherry drive
Cherry City, MX 11900
USB

I have no choice, i really need you address and i am pretty sure that it's a bad idea to send a wrong one. So i am waiting for your pm 7bit. Thank you

Banks are sometimes paranoid, I have accounts in two different banks and one of it forces me to mail them a confirmation paper if I want to do an online SEPA transfer to a new account outside the country or to add this account to my favourite

BTW I made a transfer into my payment account few days ago but it's not on it (the other bank seems to be still working on markets with it) so please 7bit don't erase my order on Monday, I'll make the full payment this next days.

facetsesame wrote:So after that last pic update, it's confirmed the CURSOR and CURSYM are the same: an extra row 2 up must be begged to be added or two kits bought. Somehow I feel as if I'm back where I started.

Indeed. All cursor formats: NEEDS ROW 2 UP!

Wait, let me guess 7bit's response…

Muirium wrote:
Wait, let me guess 7bit's response…

Nailed it.

Muirium wrote:

Well, at least we have the ROLL key sorted.

OK, added the row 2 up triangle (which is the same as row 4 down).

Yes! Thanks 7bit.

Are the (various colours) HONEY/CURSORS sets too deep in trouble to get the same touch of magic?