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Posted: 24 Sep 2014, 20:20
by Muirium
quantalume wrote:
That's an interesting item. What type of switch would this be?
Weird, that's what. The inner spring looks about the same diameter as a space invader's, while the outer one looks more like a Topre's space bar.
Bad news though: the keyboard has some old computer glommed under it:

Posted: 24 Sep 2014, 20:40
by chzel
Could that be the cryptic spring-over-dome-under-slider-inside-spring-under-cap switch???
On a serious note, it seems to have a terminal embedded!
Posted: 24 Sep 2014, 20:43
by andrewjoy
a terminal ( am am making the jump that its a serial terminal), built into a keyboard that is very very cool.
Posted: 24 Sep 2014, 20:47
by gogusrl
The itch is great to grab it but with mail forwarding & stuff it will end up over 100$ to Romania considering the weight.
Posted: 24 Sep 2014, 20:51
by Laser
Cross Alps
http://www.ebay.com/itm/PHILIPS-MECHANI ... 2a418ea255

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Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 00:46
by Daniel Beardsmore
quantalume wrote: That's an interesting item. What type of switch would this be?]
Quite a few switches applied pressure to the membrane using a coil spring, including at least one Alps design. A couple of examples:
[wiki]Oriental Tech spring-over-membrane[/wiki]
[wiki]Alps spring over membrane[/wiki] (better pictures on [wiki]Oriental Tech OK-100 series[/wiki])
Acer semi-mechanical switches have a little plastic arm in between the spring and the membrane, but often the membrane pressure spring is bare like that. In the linear designs, you have a small inner spring that presses on the membrane, and an outer spring that pushes the key back up.
I don't know what that specific switch is. The black part just seems to be a slider shaft that snaps into some sort of plate. I can't make out the out-of-focus part.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 03:07
by jacobolus
Note those Bulgarian sellers somehow decided that “Alps” means slider, and have listed all kinds of stuff as “Alps” that has nothing to do with Alps switches.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 10:27
by beltet
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 10:29
by andrewjoy
SGI AT101
its the white alps one ( i asked the seller to pull a cap) by the sound of the reply he has a few )
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Silic ... TQ:GB:1123
i was after cream ones as i have never tried them i am tempted for the caps however are they thicker than the dell ones ?
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 15:31
by tinnie
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 16:03
by Halvar
andrewjoy wrote: SGI AT101
its the white alps one ( i asked the seller to pull a cap) by the sound of the reply he has a few )
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Silic ... TQ:GB:1123
i was after cream ones as i have never tried them i am tempted for the caps however are they thicker than the dell ones ?
It's in very good shape though. Most of the used ones I've seen, including my own, are awfully yellowed (casing and space bar, the other keys are PBT). I don't remember how thick the key caps are, have to take a look when I'm at home.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 17:15
by andrewjoy
i am still temped the lettering is lovely and if i am ever lucky enough to find a board with green alps in it would be a good candidate for a retrofit. i have just never seen an alps with decently thick caps
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 17:19
by Nuum
Judging from Ripster's photos
here, I'd say they are decently thick.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 17:35
by andrewjoy
gah i am very tempted now !
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 18:05
by mr_a500
Have you seen what the keycaps look like on an M0115?

Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 18:06
by Muirium
I have one of each on its way from Cindy, along with a 3276 beamspring, incidentally…
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 18:46
by Hypersphere
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 18:50
by Muirium
About $34 each. I paid less than that for my SSK…
Well, the second one.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 18:57
by Hypersphere
Muirium wrote: About $34 each. I paid less than that for my SSK…
Well, the second one.
It is refreshing to see that you finally got a bargain on a great keyboard on your side of the Atlantic!
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 19:00
by Muirium
Nope. Texas! I'm yet to get it over here.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 19:54
by Daniel Beardsmore
With Windows keys, most likely rubber dome over membrane.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 21:15
by beltet
Daniel Beardsmore wrote:
With Windows keys, most likely rubber dome over membrane.
Thanks. I was about to buy it with another offer just to check. But for a rubberdome it would be to much.
Posted: 25 Sep 2014, 21:29
by Laser
Somebody just won the Philips keyboard (Prah Commander) ebay action ...
Does anybody know what switch is this after all?

Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 00:39
by Daniel Beardsmore
Laser wrote: Somebody just won the Philips keyboard (Prah Commander) ebay action ...
Preh, not Prah.
It's similar to this one, which is a rubber dome:
http://deskthority.net/f-o-r-s-a-l-e-f5 ... t6039.html
Some rubber dome keyboards (including Topre) have discrete slider guide shafts that snap into a plate (metal or plastic), but unlike microswitches, they're open at the bottom just as with Acer switches. That's what these appear to be. Topre do it because they have a metal plate; most keyboards simply mould the guide shafts directly into the lid of the keyboard itself — harder to mould, but far less assembly effort.
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 06:25
by gogusrl
Posted: 26 Sep 2014, 13:09
by Laser
Jacobolus & Daniel, thanks for information/correction.
So Preh, not Prah, not Alps, and certainly not ... To-preh

They seem to me to have discrete slider guide shafts, not moulded.
Posted: 27 Sep 2014, 17:28
by seebart
Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 09:03
by gogusrl
Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 10:19
by chzel
Posted: 28 Sep 2014, 12:25
by ramnes
Thank for the link seebart, I just won it. Sorry if someone else here was bidding.
