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Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 13:54
by Muirium
Hard to see on this little screen, but I presume the Nixdorf would have been bought by now if it had clear topped MX blacks for that price!

Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 14:51
by Daniel Beardsmore
I don't know what that Siemens Nixdorf has. It could be [wiki]USw UQPW01[/wiki] or it could be Cherry ML. The seller needs to pull a keycap.

I encountered a luggable machine recently (like a PAC but with 5.25" diskette drives — too big for me to want to buy it) with very tactile switches that resembled USw UQPW01, which I am assuming would have been buckling rubber sleeves under the keycaps, just like the low-profile ITW/Devlin magnetic valve switches. (I was able to peer under a keycap just enough to see a bit of the switch, but I failed to get a keycap off through what I deemed a safe amount of effort and no tools to hand.)

That luggable was Siemens Nixdorf I think (one or the other of those brands, or both), but I didn't think to write down the model details, despite having pen and paper with me, and I've been unable to find any trace of its existence on Google.

Posted: 02 Aug 2014, 17:32
by BlueBär
The Nixdorf keyboard that has the clear top switches looks quite different. The caps are spherical but have a square body, not a circular one. Not sure if there's more than one model with the clear top switches though.

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 15:41
by mr_a500
Weird.
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http://www.ebay.it/itm/RETROCOMPUTER-Cp ... 1270535779

Looks like SMK vintage linear to me.

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 15:46
by mr_a500
M0110A "New in original box" BIN $40?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Macintosh-Plus- ... 1277694920

(Looks pretty yellow for "new"... but $40 isn't too bad.)

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:01
by mr_a500
Speaking of yellowed, so-called "New in box"... this is possibly the worst example I have ever seen:

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It looks like it has been spray painted orange. The case is originally white, not even beige.
(I seriously doubt the "new" claim. The power cord is loose and they certainly didn't come that way.)

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:05
by Muirium
Look at that space bar, though. Another ancient PBT?

I've heard of ABS yellowing while in a box, but that was after retrobright, so the original UV damage had been done. In theory, unexposed ABS should still be good and white, irrespective of storage temperature.

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:09
by mr_a500
Actually, my Colour Computer did yellow in the box while it had no exposure to sun - but it was uneven light yellowing. It didn't go dark orange. That one above is even darker than a lemon-yellow Amiga 500 I got from the rubbish bin.

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:13
by Muirium
Damn ABS. I don't quite understand it. Uneven yellowing could be because of small holes in the box. Or I suppose the UV light exposure it had during manufacture and packaging? The stuff has a built in time bomb. Those cruel bastards shipping so much of it to OCD kids like us who would have to deal with it in the future!

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 16:21
by mr_a500
I don't understand it either. My CoCo 3 had no yellowing from 1986-2001 (15 years, occasionally boxed). Then I boxed it up (same box as before) and opened it in 2003 - only 2 years - and it had the uneven yellowing. The patterns didn't even correspond to anything it was touching. I don't get it.

Maybe some mysterious high-energy cosmic explosion irradiated the Earth. I better check my spleen for yellowing.

Posted: 03 Aug 2014, 23:58
by Hypersphere
If the yellowing reaction is mediated by free radicals, these could be induced chemically as well as photochemically.

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 17:15
by mr_a500
Anybody want a dusty wooden keyboard?

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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lot-of-2-vintag ... 1274304120

Posted: 04 Aug 2014, 17:16
by scottc
Pretty!

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 20:18
by RaleghDirat
Not really great but probably interesting: http://www.ebay.de/itm/181484575628
After several questions the seller added the model: G81-3000 LCNDE.
I had this idea that lasered caps were not scooped like those in this keyboard.
Is this a frankenboard?

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 21:42
by IvanIvanovich
All the old thick PBT Cherry have scoops. Thin PBT have the bars.

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 21:44
by shreebles
RaleghDirat wrote: Not really great but probably interesting: http://www.ebay.de/itm/181484575628
After several questions the seller added the model: G81-3000 LCNDE.
I had this idea that lasered caps were not scooped like those in this keyboard.
Is this a frankenboard?
IIRC all old cherry caps were scooped. Their current black POM caps still are.


EDIT: Ivan beat me to it :lol:


PS: Check out the questions on the item. People are ridiculous.

Posted: 05 Aug 2014, 21:49
by Halvar
shreebles wrote:
RaleghDirat wrote: PS: Check out the questions on the item. People are ridiculous.
Yeah, but the seller's answer is even more ridiculous - he sent them the ZIP code of Cherry's street address ... :D

Posted: 06 Aug 2014, 21:20
by seebart

Posted: 06 Aug 2014, 21:33
by Nuum
seebart wrote: [...]
COMMODORE AMIGA !

http://www.ebay.de/itm/COMMODORE-AMIGA- ... 233e948841
Nice Amiga! ;)

Posted: 06 Aug 2014, 21:38
by seebart
It´s just the case as I understand, but those caps! [drool] I´ve never seen this particular model though! That sticker on the back of the pcb looks exactly like the sticker inside my Commodore PC-1 Keyboard. MITSUMI ! Too bad. :cry:

Posted: 06 Aug 2014, 21:56
by Nuum
Yeah, right, but as far as I know the keyboard is not Amiga compatible. But the keycaps are nice, indeed. The color scheme is a bit too brown for me, though.

Posted: 06 Aug 2014, 22:16
by Halvar
The description is BS -- that's a Commodore CBM 610 case/keyboard from the early 80s before the Amiga came out.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_CBM-II

It's quite a nice case for a compact mITX-PC nonetheless. I think the keys were more grey than brown originally.

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 11:56
by kbdfr
G81-3000 HAD (i.e. German doubleshots) for 10€ (with "Make Offer" option):
http://www.ebay.de/itm/331282479357

Same seller also has a IBM Model M for 45€:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/331282442774

And then there's a Schneider labelled G81-3000 (German doubleshots with English modifiers, as usual with Schneider) for 15€:
http://kleinanzeigen.ebay.de/anzeigen/s ... /228846961

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 14:27
by seebart
with "Make Offer" option
...someone made him an offer he could not refuse :mrgreen: not a bad deal really. :ugeek:

did you get that G81-3000 kbdfr?

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 14:48
by kbdfr
seebart wrote: […] did you get that G81-3000 kbdfr?
No, I didn't, I posted it here instead :mrgreen:
I'm not interested in German doubleshots any more, even for that price.
I simply have too many of them - and no use for them :lol:

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 15:06
by DanielT
I am waiting for some Cherry ANSI double shots, something black on white with beige or hellgrau mods ... but is so hard in Europe to get those :(

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 15:24
by kbdfr
DanielT wrote: I am waiting for some Cherry ANSI double shots, something black on white with beige or hellgrau mods ... but is so hard in Europe to get those :(
PM'd - don't wait to have a look :lol:

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 17:34
by dyger
seebart wrote: […] did you get that G81-3000 kbdfr?
I got it :D

Posted: 07 Aug 2014, 21:55
by seebart
congrats on that dyger.

our friend is back with his rotten IBM bigfoot; beware...

http://www.ebay.de/itm/ibm-tastatur-alt ... 3ce5e4cc36

IBM SpaceSaver II 28L3648

http://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-SpaceSaver-I ... 2593850aa4

SteelSeries 6Gv2 (6422) US Layout

http://www.ebay.de/itm/SteelSeries-6Gv2 ... 1c44123ffd

for the rich...IBM Model M Industrial Gray Space Saving Keyboard SSK Model 1395682

http://www.ebay.de/itm/IBM-Model-M-Indu ... 339350d3dd

Posted: 09 Aug 2014, 00:33
by mr_a500
I know this isn't quite keyboard related.... but if you ever wanted a reel to reel tape of Leonard Nimoy singing, you won't want to miss this:

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http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Leonard-Nimoy-SE ... 1403722579