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Posted: 07 Feb 2017, 18:43
by Ratfink
seebart wrote: Chyros wrote: Rubber domes.
Not only rubber domes but those HP keyboards speak their own proprietary HP protocol. I have one here, the keycaps are nice but that's it.
Darn, I love their appearance and the layout looks great, but if the switches are just domes…
Posted: 07 Feb 2017, 18:50
by seebart
gogusrl wrote: Is that cable compatible with model M's ?
Yes, one side is SDL, I forgot what the other end is.
Ratfink wrote: Darn, I love their appearance and the layout looks great, but if the switches are just domes…
And those semi-nice keycaps do not fit anything else...
Posted: 07 Feb 2017, 22:25
by //gainsborough
Browsing ebay listings whilst giving my students an exam... maybe I have a problem.
BUT, I found this F-AT for pretty cheap
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Personal-Co ... SwjDZYmii3
Posted: 07 Feb 2017, 22:32
by cumwagondeluxe
Anybody else see that keyboard with blue alps that got listed on eBay yesterday? I wanna say it was an Acer, but I can't remember. Was listed some time in the evening/late afternoon EST time but I can't seem to find it anymore
Posted: 07 Feb 2017, 23:22
by Engicoder
cumwagondeluxe wrote: Anybody else see that keyboard with blue alps that got listed on eBay yesterday? I wanna say it was an Acer, but I can't remember. Was listed some time in the evening/late afternoon EST time but I can't seem to find it anymore
This thing:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152426916610
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 00:15
by tentator
that's monterey blues.. so almost alps
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 00:20
by cumwagondeluxe
tentator wrote: that's monterey blues.. so almost alps
Monterey blues have a completely different look - the shape isn't the same, and the color is a light/faded blue. Unless I'm missing something, that keyboard almost certainly has blue alps.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 00:45
by fohat
tentator wrote: that's monterey blues.. so almost alps
Yes, those are not SMK "Montereys"
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 00:49
by Tuntematon
Those are in fact just a cheap Alps clone, really awful, better delete the link and never speak of it again. Nothing to see here.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 00:52
by //gainsborough
Tuntematon wrote: Those are in fact just a cheap Alps clone, really awful, better delete the link and never speak of it again. Nothing to see here.
hahahahaha. riiiiiight.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 01:51
by mike52787
BTW, those costar made boards are built like tanks and the caps have a really great font... whoever gets this gets one hell of a board
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 01:58
by Ail
Yeah I think the caps are actually as appealing as the blues are, to be honest.
By the way everyone, a Northgate tech told me in an e-mail last week that ALPS blue are exactly the same as white, so you should stop bidding and let someone else pay way too much for those.
*places bid*
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 01:59
by mike52787
Ail wrote: Yeah I think the caps are actually as appealing as the blues are, to be honest.
By the way everyone, a Northgate tech told me in an e-mail last week that ALPS blue are exactly the same as white, so you should stop bidding and let someone else pay way to much for those.
*places bid*
mr bob... he tells everyone the same thing
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 02:02
by Ail
mike52787 wrote: Ail wrote: Yeah I think the caps are actually as appealing as the blues are, to be honest.
By the way everyone, a Northgate tech told me in an e-mail last week that ALPS blue are exactly the same as white, so you should stop bidding and let someone else pay way to much for those.
*places bid*
mr bob... he tells everyone the same thing
Yes and I'm curious as to why, is he just trying to sell more of his own boards with whites, or does he actually believe that?
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 02:04
by mike52787
Ail wrote: mike52787 wrote: Ail wrote: Yeah I think the caps are actually as appealing as the blues are, to be honest.
By the way everyone, a Northgate tech told me in an e-mail last week that ALPS blue are exactly the same as white, so you should stop bidding and let someone else pay way to much for those.
*places bid*
mr bob... he tells everyone the same thing
Yes and I'm curious as to why, is he just trying to sell more of his own boards with whites, or does he actually believe that?
no idea, his prices are pretty prohibitive though, he quoted me 200$ on an omnikey ultra early version
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 02:23
by Hypersphere
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 02:50
by mike52787
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 03:03
by Chyros
Isn't that the same one that got listed separate from that computer? =o Still guessing it's got yellow Alps - if anyone found out please let me know if I'm right or not!
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 03:37
by Hypersphere
Chyros wrote: Isn't that the same one that got listed separate from that computer? =o Still guessing it's got yellow Alps - if anyone found out please let me know if I'm right or not!
I had a message exchange with this seller before he took down the listing. It was difficult to get information from him, but in a series of questions and answers, he confirmed that the sliders were yellow and that the underside of the keycap was white and black stripes -- so, it looks like yellow Alps with doubleshots.
He also said that he broke the cap and that he was going to glue things back together before relisting. I urged him NOT to glue anything because buyers would want to know exactly what was damaged in order to know what needed to be repaired and to do proper repairs.
Looks like he is not divulging the mishap in the relisting.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 05:57
by Hak Foo
mike52787 wrote:
no idea, his prices are pretty prohibitive though, he quoted me 200$ on an omnikey ultra early version
My theory is that once you factor in wear, the "range" of Blue and White switches overlap so much that there isn't a definable difference. It would be a fun thing to test: set up a test rig with, say, 100 mixed switches under identical caps, and see if people can reliably differentiate Blue and White. Maybe mix some later bamboo-white, clone-white, and Matias switches in for extra fun.
Maybe new units in lab settings perform in a recongzable way, but once you're looking at older units with dried-out lubrication and wear, all bets are off.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 08:40
by gogusrl
Not a keyboard but a really good price :
BeyerDynamic DT 880 Premium Special Edition Chrome Version 250 ohm 149$
http://www.ebay.com/itm/311742462942
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 09:08
by seebart
Chyros wrote: Isn't that the same one that got listed separate from that computer? =o Still guessing it's got yellow Alps - if anyone found out please let me know if I'm right or not!
It's the same one with that 50% yellowed space bar...
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 09:13
by Scarpia
Hak Foo wrote: My theory is that once you factor in wear, the "range" of Blue and White switches overlap so much that there isn't a definable difference. It would be a fun thing to test: set up a test rig with, say, 100 mixed switches under identical caps, and see if people can reliably differentiate Blue and White. Maybe mix some later bamboo-white, clone-white, and Matias switches in for extra fun.
I'd love it if this was set up as a stand at keyboard meetups; correctly identify all 51 SKCM Blues in a keyboard of 102 SKCM Whites to win a prize! ... and then record all the guesses, for science!
My guess is, if the whites are clean Pines then it'll be too close to call.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 12:59
by Chyros
Hypersphere wrote: Chyros wrote: Isn't that the same one that got listed separate from that computer? =o Still guessing it's got yellow Alps - if anyone found out please let me know if I'm right or not!
I had a message exchange with this seller before he took down the listing. It was difficult to get information from him, but in a series of questions and answers, he confirmed that the sliders were yellow and that the underside of the keycap was white and black stripes -- so, it looks like yellow Alps with doubleshots.
He also said that he broke the cap and that he was going to glue things back together before relisting. I urged him NOT to glue anything because buyers would want to know exactly what was damaged in order to know what needed to be repaired and to do proper repairs.
Looks like he is not divulging the mishap in the relisting.
Cool, thanks for the confirmation
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Scarpia wrote: Hak Foo wrote: My theory is that once you factor in wear, the "range" of Blue and White switches overlap so much that there isn't a definable difference. It would be a fun thing to test: set up a test rig with, say, 100 mixed switches under identical caps, and see if people can reliably differentiate Blue and White. Maybe mix some later bamboo-white, clone-white, and Matias switches in for extra fun.
I'd love it if this was set up as a stand at keyboard meetups; correctly identify all 51 SKCM Blues in a keyboard of 102 SKCM Whites to win a prize! ... and then record all the guesses, for science!
My guess is, if the whites are clean Pines then it'll be too close to call.
As long as the board acoustics don't influence the sound too badly, you should be able to separate them pretty reliably by sound alone.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 15:47
by Harshmallow
Chyros wrote: Isn't that the same one that got listed separate from that computer? =o Still guessing it's got yellow Alps - if anyone found out please let me know if I'm right or not!
Chyros - that's definitely not the same board. The one that got separated from its computer was almost certainly NIB. Here is the sold listing (in way better shape):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Zenith- ... 7675.l2557
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 16:35
by Ail
Dude the keyboard temptations are enough, please don't do this to me.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 16:39
by alh84001
Someone (@snuci?) may want to pair their 5251 beamspring with a terminal
http://www.ebay.com/itm/122339765611
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 19:55
by Chyros
Harshmallow wrote: Chyros wrote: Isn't that the same one that got listed separate from that computer? =o Still guessing it's got yellow Alps - if anyone found out please let me know if I'm right or not!
Chyros - that's definitely not the same board. The one that got separated from its computer was almost certainly NIB. Here is the sold listing (in way better shape):
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-Zenith- ... 7675.l2557
Ah yes, I must've mixed them up. That one should be yellow Alps too, btw.
Posted: 08 Feb 2017, 23:22
by y11971alex
Posted: 09 Feb 2017, 02:04
by Seraxis
http://www.ebay.com/itm/162388637808?_t ... EBIDX%3AIT
IBM Beamspring 3278, USB modded with working solenoid