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Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 02:01
by zslane
Everything you order from 7bit, no matter what it is, goes into the same system. You only have one invoice that just keeps accumulating the things you've ordered, tracks your payments and what's been shipped to you. Just keep sending order messages to 7bot and pay your invoice off when you can (sometimes you won't be able to because he doesn't have collectors for PayPal or whatever, in which case you just have to wait until he has the necessary money collectors).
Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 02:05
by Luna
Ok, I’ll add the round 7 order then.
Already paid the previous one with bank transfer since I’m in Europe.
Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 03:20
by zslane
Hey 7bit, what row profile are the SHIFT keys in this kit?

Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 10:27
by rominronin
They look like row 4 to me.
Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 14:41
by 7bit
These shipped yesterday:
0289
0543
0609
0641
0647
0649
0661
0715
0834
0910
0915
0923
0943
0949
0950
0970
1106
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More on Monday ...
Posted: 03 Feb 2018, 14:41
by 7bit
zslane wrote: Hey 7bit, what row profile are the SHIFT keys in this kit?

row 4.

Posted: 04 Feb 2018, 12:12
by Luna
zslane wrote: A proper ANSI 60% board is simply the main 61-key alpha block of a normal full-size 104/108 ANSI keyboard (ala Pok3r). Most 68-key variants try to jam a bunch of keys from a TKL onto the side of a normal 60% board and usually involve PgUp/PgDn keys of non-standard row profiles, and so on. I avoid those completely since they require too many non-standard keys and they are too wide to match up with my iPad in any case. However, I agree that arrow keys are too useful to do without, and so I use a Pok3r layout where the arrow keys are achieved through Fn+IJKL (where I assign Fn to the CapsLock key; chording for the arrows is very easy with this configuration).
Received the Race 3 and Poker 3 LE yesterday (Antoher Poker 3 with white backlight coming to use with some nice caps).
I changed Caps Lock to Fn like you said and it's indeed ideal. Very handy for navigation keys and delete.
Thanks for the tip!
Posted: 04 Feb 2018, 19:29
by LightningXI
7bit wrote: These shipped yesterday:
0289
0543
0609
0641
0647
0649
0661
0715
0834
0910
0915
0923
0943
0949
0950
0970
1106
1111
1116
1226
1253
More on Monday ...
Fingers crossed for 1152 on Monday!!
Posted: 04 Feb 2018, 22:24
by Luna
Luna wrote: zslane wrote: A proper ANSI 60% board is simply the main 61-key alpha block of a normal full-size 104/108 ANSI keyboard (ala Pok3r). Most 68-key variants try to jam a bunch of keys from a TKL onto the side of a normal 60% board and usually involve PgUp/PgDn keys of non-standard row profiles, and so on. I avoid those completely since they require too many non-standard keys and they are too wide to match up with my iPad in any case. However, I agree that arrow keys are too useful to do without, and so I use a Pok3r layout where the arrow keys are achieved through Fn+IJKL (where I assign Fn to the CapsLock key; chording for the arrows is very easy with this configuration).
Received the Race 3 and Poker 3 LE yesterday (Antoher Poker 3 with white backlight coming to use with some nice caps).
I changed Caps Lock to Fn like you said and it's indeed ideal. Very handy for navigation keys and delete.
Thanks for the tip!
Annoying side effect though: left control becomes caps lock? Or have I messed with something I shouldn't?
Posted: 04 Feb 2018, 23:33
by zslane
On my Pok3rs, dip switch 3 controls the Caps Lock function. When that switch is on, the Caps Lock key becomes a second FN key (and there is no Caps Lock key anywhere). When that switch is off, Caps Lock functions normally. Maybe the firmware changed between the version of the Pok3r I have and the LE.
Posted: 04 Feb 2018, 23:55
by Luna
Mine moved caps lock to left control while doing that but I must have messed it up while playing with the colors and pressing some Fn combo.
I reset the keyboard and now it’s like you say.
Posted: 05 Feb 2018, 11:15
by jedmund
7bit wrote: These shipped yesterday:
0289
0543
0609
0641
0647
0649
0661
0715
0834
0910
0915
0923
0943
0949
0950
0970
1106
1111
1116
1226
1253
More on Monday ...
pls to 0638
Posted: 05 Feb 2018, 11:21
by Luna
jedmund wrote:
pls to 0638
If you send the bot a SHIPNOW command two playmates deliver your order within the hour by helicopter ...

Posted: 05 Feb 2018, 20:30
by Griffy
But will they lube the keyes?
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 03:57
by rominronin
It's Tuesday.
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 08:30
by jedmund
Luna wrote: jedmund wrote:
pls to 0638
If you send the bot a SHIPNOW command two playmates deliver your order within the hour by helicopter ...

honestly i dont need the playmates, but i wouldn't be mad if 7bit to delivered them himself
Posted: 06 Feb 2018, 09:38
by mecano
I guess he wouldn't be mad to if you pay him the ticket to Frisco and back

Posted: 08 Feb 2018, 20:33
by nowai
rominronin wrote: It's Tuesday.
7bit obviously meant next monday

Posted: 09 Feb 2018, 06:52
by scl
Come on 7bit.it is february now. i feared to caps would arrive during my holidays in late december. -.-
Posted: 09 Feb 2018, 07:03
by rominronin
@7bit, can I pay you for shipping MY items?
In other news, OCO has announced SA Honeywell for late March. I don't know why that annoys me, but it does :/
Posted: 09 Feb 2018, 19:17
by zslane
What is OCO?
I've noticed that other "Honeywell" sets that have come out don't really get it right. Their gray is too light or too dark, or their legends aren't black, or they stagger the F-row block colors (rather than making them all gray), or they don't offer a black numpad. Bleh.
Posted: 09 Feb 2018, 19:23
by LightningXI
zslane wrote: What is OCO?
I've noticed that other "Honeywell" sets that have come out don't really get it right. Their gray is too light or too dark, or their legends aren't black, or they stagger the F-row block colors (rather than making them all gray), or they don't offer a black numpad. Bleh.
Oco = Originative.Co
https://originative.co
https://kbdist.com/updates/
Posted: 09 Feb 2018, 19:32
by chuckdee
zslane wrote: What is OCO?
I've noticed that other "Honeywell" sets that have come out don't really get it right. Their gray is too light or too dark, or their legends aren't black, or they stagger the F-row block colors (rather than making them all gray), or they don't offer a black numpad. Bleh.
This is probably the colors that were on the GMK and DSA sets, which were pretty good to me, put together by livingspeedbump. One of my favorite sets of last year.
Posted: 09 Feb 2018, 22:37
by rominronin
Here's a link:
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2018/1/30/sa-incoming
It's not so much the accuracy as the fact that this gb has taken SO LONG, that almost half a dozen other honeywell sets have come and gone in the mean time, including SA profile sets from China (and SP too).
This waiting has been hard, I would not do it again.
Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 01:00
by zslane
I just don't feel they deserve to call themselves "Honeywell" just because they are white and grey, with a few red caps thrown in here and there randomly (that is not what makes a Honeywell set a Honeywell set). They are misleading buyers, IMO.
Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 02:44
by chuckdee
zslane wrote: I just don't feel they deserve to call themselves "Honeywell" just because they are white and grey, with a few red caps thrown in here and there randomly (that is not what makes a Honeywell set a Honeywell set). They are misleading buyers, IMO.
The one by livingspeedbump is spot on and looks even better on a board, IMO.
Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 10:44
by caligo
Those other "Honeywell" sets look quite nice, but they also stray rather far from the original Honeywell look. And that's okay, people like different things. But I'm with zslane on this – if you claim your set is an hommage to Honeywell's Hall effect keyboards, it should at least be possible to put together a fairly faithful recreation of the original using the keys in the set. If a keyset can't be used to build
this (all gray f-row, black numpad), then the word Honeywell is something of a misnomer IMO.

Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 16:40
by nosage
rominronin wrote: Here's a link:
http://www.kbdist.com/updates/2018/1/30/sa-incoming
It's not so much the accuracy as the fact that this gb has taken SO LONG, that almost half a dozen other honeywell sets have come and gone in the mean time, including SA profile sets from China (and SP too).
This waiting has been hard, I would not do it again.
I definitely sympathize with you, but want to offer a counter point. The Rounds are an opportunity to build something for yourself that is truly unique and comes from your heart. The massive amount of customization options, the inspiration in the cappening thread, the hospitality of the community (helping collect money, helping new people order) demonstrates how unique and special the Round group buys are. You do not see any other vendor, massdrop/oco, anyone else, offering vast customization options like this. No one else is crazy enough! Use it as an opportunity to design something for yourself. Personally I do not want my hard earned money go to someone elses' profits while I end up with the same keyset as everyone else.
Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 17:08
by saboy
7bit wrote: These shipped yesterday:
0289
0543
0609
0641
0647
0649
0661
0715
0834
0910
0915
0923
0943
0949
0950
0970
1106
1111
1116
1226
1253

More on Monday ...
Monday was 1 week ago and still no info...
I know that GB is "long term project" but the most time consuming task of GB is the production of keycaps.
Sorting and shipping should be faster than that.
People are enough nervous about all the delays of this GB and I think that this lack of information is not good practice.
When 7bit says "More on Monday" that means that we are waiting about more info on Monday... and all that we get is silence.
Ofcourse it's possible to have some delays of sorting or shipping, 7bit is not machine, but it's correct to write something like that: "Guys, I'm not able to shipp orders on Monday, I will do it on Wednesday" for example...
I hope that 7bit will provide us more info about the current state of sorting and shipping process otherwise it seems that nothing is doing.
Posted: 10 Feb 2018, 18:43
by zslane
saboy wrote:
I know that GB is "long term project" but the most time consuming task of GB is the production of keycaps.
Sorting and shipping should be faster than that.
If this was anything but a 7bit group buy, I might agree with you there. The reality is that SP can manufacture all the keycaps in less than 90 days, but then poor Andreas has to do
everything else--all by himself--in his spare time. Sorting and packing my order alone probably took him two days, and I wasn't even in the top 20 in terms of order size.
I strongly suggest trying to run a GB as massive as Round 6 all by yourself before proclaiming how long order fulfillment ought to take. I hate how long this process takes too, but my biggest beef with 7bit as we reached the end of this was not the speed of sorting, packing, and shipping, but the lack of communication as to what was going on in January when he went completely radio silent.
Luckily for us all, he seems to be sending out shipments weekly now. Eventually all the orders will go out. But it will take a good long while; there's only so much one lone busy dude in Berlin can do in a day/week/month.