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Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 19:04
by scottc
What will be used instead of PayPal?

Posted: 15 Feb 2016, 20:07
by Ellipse
A merchant account - basically how every web site accepts payments without PayPal. More details to follow later...

Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 11:48
by scottc
I see... When I'm paying such an inordinate amount of money for an item, I do like to have PayPal buyer protection. I'll have to think about this some more.

Re: F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Posted: 16 Feb 2016, 17:08
by Techno Trousers
When paying by credit card you have the ability to dispute charges. I actually trust my credit cards to protect me better than PayPal does.

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 02:32
by Ellipse
scottc there will always be an option to use PayPal even when I replace it on the web site. I am not closing my account. Just PM me what you'd like to order when you're ready and I will manually create an order and invoice you for the order through PayPal.

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 02:33
by Ellipse
We are at the mid point of the early bird round of the group buy right now and have just two weeks left for everyone to get in their early bird orders!

Everyone who orders before the end of the month receives an early bird keyboard - you don't have to pay extra thanks to the early bird tooling volunteers.

We just crossed the $51,000 mark! Now there are at least two well-known individuals in the tech world who have bought one of these F77/F62 keyboards!

A few days ago bubblebobbler posted that he helped in getting Minecraft founder "Notch" to order a keyboard! And the second individual has his own Wikipedia page and is a major innovator who started in the early days of the internet.

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 02:43
by webwit
Must be Al Gore.

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 02:56
by Muirium
Cool. It'll be quite an upgrade for him…

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Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 04:30
by Ace
Muirium wrote: Cool. It'll be quite an upgrade for him…

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If only I could find monitors that big nowadays. Those look like 30 inchers at least. I know you have some of the larger 4K monitors, but they're 16:9. I'm still more of a 16:10 cat. :P

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 04:37
by joc
Maybe Linus Torvalds?

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 06:44
by Tuntematon
Hmmm. Michael Dell? When you gonna tell us? :o

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 07:45
by Madhias
Steve Wozniak? Or... John McAfee!

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 10:41
by Halvar
Wasn't Eric S. Raymond interested in keyboards for a while?

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Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 10:53
by Ludovician
What is that, a Chicony?

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 10:54
by andrewjoy
My money is on Brian Kernighan, he has a beard , so he knows his stuff.

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 13:42
by kekstee
Regular keysets come with two vertical stabilizer inserts, right? (just want to make sure to have one for using old ISO sets eventually)

Also I would love to order 1.5u Fn keys through Unicomp, but while selectable they are out of stock and will be back "soon". Any experience with them if that could actually happen?

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 14:17
by Ellipse
kekstee they do not come with vertical inserts. Unicomp charges $1.50 per insert and there's an option to buy extras if you want them. Otherwise everyone's keyboard price would be $3 more.

All the keys and required stabilizer inserts for your layout will be included, however, so that you will get a full key set if you order a key set.

I don't know but I assumed they can make the keys on demand, like they did with my Industrial SSK style keyset option from the web site.

Re: F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 15:07
by Techno Trousers
Ludovician wrote:What is that, a Chicony?
Looks like an NMB Space Invaders board to me. Either an RT101+ or an 82xx.

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 17:38
by hKing
Hey there Ellipse,
I have one more question regarding the paint-job:

Is it well done - consistent / uniform, no stains, no blemishes, etc ?

Posted: 17 Feb 2016, 22:06
by Ellipse
Yes regarding the prototype paint.

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 03:15
by Elrick
Ellipse wrote: Yes regarding the prototype paint.
Too lazy to read up on all the previous pages here, so the custom PAINT jobs will be Sprayed with Gloss top coat finishes applied or is it still all powder coated?

Just forgot if you order a specialized custom colour, whether it'll be applied like a Car Finish or not.

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 04:01
by Ellipse
The paint will all be powdercoated. I have specified no glossiness so that they will match the originals. The prototypes came out too glossy for my taste - I prefer a dull powdercoating finish.

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 04:23
by Ellipse
Here's the order breakdown so far for those interested (just the main accessory items' orders listed):

118 keyboards: 57 F62 and 61 F77 orders (interestingly the F77s are now in the lead!)

577 extra assembled flippers+springs
370 extra barrels
20 sets of Industrial SSK blue key sets (12 keys per set)
16 sets of front-printed F1, etc. keys
14 pairs of extra steel spacebar tabs
11 extra F62/F77 cases
7 of 13 early bird tooling volunteers have paid so far (one paid more than their $100 share so we did not need anyone else!)
5 extra PCBs
4 Apple/Mac Command/Option keys
2 keyboards upgraded to DHL Express shipping from sea mail

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 06:28
by Elrick
Ellipse wrote: 118 keyboards: 57 F62 and 61 F77 orders (interestingly the F77s are now in the lead!)
There was never any doubt at all, the F77 is simply too sexy to ignore :-D .

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 09:06
by JanitorJoe
How many people are getting caps through you vs sourcing their own?

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 09:41
by Khers
Didn't see that one coming (F77 leading over F62, that is). I've always found the F62 the prettiest of the 4704s. But then again I'm an avid HHKB user most of the time so I might be slightly biased :D

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 15:20
by t!ng

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 15:58
by darkspider
It appeared some weeks ago. And the seller is also selling barrel which he says is one piece of prototype.
I think he is Ellipse, isn't he?

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 16:00
by Muirium
$25 OMG HE HAS HIT MU PRICE COUNT ME IN

(Opens up envelope. Finds dot matrix receipt. No keyboard. Sharpens knives.)

Posted: 18 Feb 2016, 16:11
by Khers
darkspider wrote: It appeared some weeks ago. And the seller is also selling barrel which he says is one piece of prototype.
I think he is Ellipse, isn't he?
Yes, it is Ellipse.