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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 19:07
by zslane
The only definition that matters is SP's. If they don't agree that phase 2 is paid up they will never authorize production. If SP still believes $3000-4000 is outstanding, and 7bit disagrees, then we have a serious problem.
Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 19:13
by 7bit
heymark wrote: @7bit,HONEYB/TENKLESSBASE/VIOLETT HONEYB/ALPHA/CREAM are in the page of R6_leftovers,is it real?
No, they are gone already.
I still have one more, but I'm not sure I want to give it away.

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Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 19:18
by doom2
zslane wrote: The only definition that matters is SP's. If they don't agree that phase 2 is paid up they will never authorize production. If SP still believes $3000-4000 is outstanding, and 7bit disagrees, then we have a serious problem.
This. Until Krutmob or 7bit has an email in hand from Melissa saying we are for sure fully paid, I have to assume there is still money owed.
Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 19:19
by 7bit
zslane wrote: The only definition that matters is SP's. If they don't agree that phase 2 is paid up they will never authorize production. If SP still believes $3000-4000 is outstanding, and 7bit disagrees, then we have a serious problem.
I will ask. But since they gave us a production frame, I'm quite sure it is all good.
When I gave them a list of what has been paid and what is to be paid, the only amount missing was those $3700 from mashby, which have been covered by the $2500 payment. With the $3700, the grab bags and part of shipping costs are covered. Until they have finished the keys, we have the remaining amount to pay for shipping to me. The real issue is the low number of orders from EU people.
I've sent some packages today and will send what is packable next Monday, but then it was it:
0018
0321
0740
0821
0850
0884
0890
0931
1010
1061
1075
1111
1122
1155
1182
1190

Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 19:53
by doom2

I see my invoice number! If I got SHIPTRACKED, where do I get tracking info?
Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 19:54
by krutmob
I have a list of refunds 7bit gave me. I will begin issuing them when we receive confirmation that mashby's check arrived at SP.
Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 20:16
by zslane
That August production slot is the only good news we've had in six months. I'm not ready to celebrate just yet though. Once bitten, twice shy and all that...
Posted: 21 Apr 2017, 20:22
by Ail
7bit wrote: zslane wrote: The only definition that matters is SP's. If they don't agree that phase 2 is paid up they will never authorize production. If SP still believes $3000-4000 is outstanding, and 7bit disagrees, then we have a serious problem.
I will ask. But since they gave us a production frame, I'm quite sure it is all good.
When I gave them a list of what has been paid and what is to be paid, the only amount missing was those $3700 from mashby, which have been covered by the $2500 payment. With the $3700, the grab bags and part of shipping costs are covered. Until they have finished the keys, we have the remaining amount to pay for shipping to me. The real issue is the low number of orders from EU people.
I've sent some packages today and will send what is packable next Monday, but then it was it:
0018
0321
0740
0821
0850
0884
0890
0931
1010
1061
1075
1111
1122
1155
1182
1190

Thanks, 7bit.

Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 02:58
by krutmob
Report from mashby is the check is in the mail today.
Re: Round 5 in stock / Round 6 in production / extra kits for sale!!!
Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 03:04
by doom2
krutmob wrote:Report from mashby is the check is in the mail today.
USPS don't fail us now
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Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 09:55
by 7bit
We are paid up. I will get the confirmation from SP next week.
I've asked (around 30 March 2017) and got this answer:
Code: Select all
No, we have not yet received all the payments. We are still waiting for some
older payments:
$3,737.81 - From Sept 21st of 2016 - mashby
$4,700.00 - From Jan 20th of 2017 - stevepet
$7,366.74 - From Jan 20th of 2017 - SL89
$3,000.00 - From Jan 20th of 2017 - Ail
$2,000.00 - From Jan 20th of 2017 - zslane
$6,042.90 - From March 15th of 2017 - SL89
Still due: $26,847.45
The January 20th invoices where replaced by new ones from March with higher amounts. The original idea was to pay up for produciton of 3 of the 4 remaining colors, but SP wanted everything, so these 4 invoices had not been paid.
In the meantime, SL89 paid the March 15th invoice and krutmob paid $2500 to cover the missing amount from mashby's invoice. The $26,847.45 is the sum of all those unpaid invoices (4 of which had been replaced by, at that moment, already paid ones)!
Code: Select all
R6 phase 1 (including shipping etc.)|-78750.88 (shipping was $2550.00)
R6 phase 2 production |-45878.50<--- production covered by $2500 from krutmob
R6 phase 2 grab bags (estimated) | -3123.00<--- covered by the $3737.81 from mashby
R6 phase 2 shipping (estimated) | -3123.00<--- costs for grab bags and shipping might
R6 phase 2 import tax (estimated) |-11469.62 be cheaper but it is always good to
Amount paid to SP (including mashby)|129681.13 have some buffer ;-)
Amount held by money collectors | 5114.21
Amount to be refunded (incl. EUR) | -2799.32
------------------------------------+---------
amount missing |-10348.98
Unless the prices have been raised, or SP finds out some other invoice has not been paid, we are paid up for production, grab bag keys and shipping costs. It remains about $10,000 for import tax. There are keys worth $25,000 for sale, so this should be doable.

Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 17:31
by zslane
It is interesting to see the cost breakdown.
So basically SP has been paid enough to produce everything, but until the import tax is paid, they can't send the keycaps to you, is that right? Which means we have until September to come up with the $10k needed to cover the import tax, otherwise all those keycaps just sit in SP's warehouse in WA, right?
Well that is definitely progress! I still can't believe we got an August production slot. How did that happen?
Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 17:33
by krutmob
Really great to see the full cost breakdown, 7bit. Thanks for posting that. I was unaware of how huge the import tax is! I'm really glad we are moving along now.
Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 17:50
by gnmar2723
krutmob wrote: Really great to see the full cost breakdown, 7bit. Thanks for posting that. I was unaware of how huge the import tax is! I'm really glad we are moving along now.
In light of the high import taxes, I wonder if there is anyway to have a US proxy get the keys first, and then ship them to NA based buyers before sending the remaining over to Germany in order to reduce costs for everyone. Just a thought.
Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 19:45
by zslane
If you think 7bit would ever entrust the sorting and packing to anyone else, then you don't know him very well.
Besides, the cost of the import taxes have already been figured into the prices we all paid. I don't think 7bit would want to issue partial refunds to everyone for that.
Posted: 22 Apr 2017, 20:58
by Griffy
Isnt that the price it will cost to get the keys from the german customs? Or like here, they just send the stuff and a week after there is an invoice for the tax. I can`t see how this has anything to do with SP?
Re: Round 5 in stock / Round 6 in production / extra kits for sale!!!
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 03:47
by 82d28a
zslane wrote:If you think 7bit would ever entrust the sorting and packing to anyone else, then you don't know him very well.
Besides, the cost of the import taxes have already been figured into the prices we all paid. I don't think 7bit would want to issue partial refunds to everyone for that.
Slightly confused, previous post you made it sound like we had come up with 10K to cover import taxes by Sept?
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Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 05:32
by zslane
82d28a wrote: zslane wrote:If you think 7bit would ever entrust the sorting and packing to anyone else, then you don't know him very well.
Besides, the cost of the import taxes have already been figured into the prices we all paid. I don't think 7bit would want to issue partial refunds to everyone for that.
Slightly confused, previous post you made it sound like we had come up with 10K to cover import taxes by Sept?
According to 7bit's breakdown, yes, we do. Without it the keycaps will remain stuck in German customs or something (I don't precisely know how a failure to pay "import taxes" affects this logistically, to be perfectly honest).
Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 11:40
by 7bit
zslane wrote: It is interesting to see the cost breakdown.
So basically SP has been paid enough to produce everything, but until the import tax is paid, they can't send the keycaps to you, is that right? Which means we have until September to come up with the $10k needed to cover the import tax, otherwise all those keycaps just sit in SP's warehouse in WA, right?
Well that is definitely progress! I still can't believe we got an August production slot. How did that happen?
No, they will come until Schkeuditz, Germany:
Those $10,000 are plain sailing, it will at most take until end of July, depending on how many people want their money back.

Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 13:33
by taek
7bit wrote:
Those $10,000 are plain sailing, it will at most take until end of July, depending on how many people want their money back.

Will there be another <ALPHA, BASE, TKL kits>, not partial caps, on r6 leftover?
If then, I'd like to replace some of my R7 paid order with those. Since r7(include refund) is unclear to me.
BTW: please at least, pretend to read my pm about missing caps(HONEYG_TRASH1, R3 BLUE 1.75U CONTROL*2).

Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 16:09
by 7bit
There is at least some reserve for Round 6 phase 2.
Also, these are still available:
HONEYB/SIXTYBASE/GREY
HONEYB/ALPHA/E/WHITE
HONEYB/CURSORBASE/GREY
HONEYB/CURSORS/GREY
HONEYB/FUNCTION1/GREY
HONEYB/FUNCTION3/RED
HONEYB/SPACE625/WHITE
HONEYB/SPACE700/WHITE

Posted: 23 Apr 2017, 18:25
by taek
I've already ordered 3~4 of those kits each.
I keep an eye on leftover page for CREAM/VIOLETT, but I missed them all the time.

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 17:51
by 7bit
Because I need some money:
EU sellout! 50% off everything!!! Until the end of this month!

Order key caps worth up to $1000 and pay only 50% of the price.

The catch: You must pay via SEPA in EUR!

Excluded are everybody who ever got a refund!
(except if you got the refund for a lost order etc.)

Only for incomming EUR-payments until 2 May 2017!!!


HONEYG/G1
price: $59

HONEYG/DCS/BLUE
price: $7

HONEYG/CURSOR/LGREY
price: $4

HONEYG/MOD125A/GE
price: $5

HONEYG/FNALTGR125/GE
price: $3

HONEYG/PAUSE/G/YELLOWBLUE
price: $1.5

HONEYG/R2U100/TURQUOISE
price: $2

HONEYG/MODSYM100B/CADET
price: $5

HONEYG/MOD150CFHH/CADET
price: $5

HONEYG/TRIANGLE125/CADET
price: $1.5

HONEYG/WCK/GD/R1/SPH
price: $2

HONEYG/JRET/BLUE
price: $5

HONEYG/MOD125B/BLUE
price: $21

HONEYG/MOD125B/BLUE
price: $21

HONEYG/CURSOREXTRA/D/BLUE
price: $9

HONEYG/CURSOREXTRA/G/BLUE
price: $3

HONEYG/MODSYM100A/R2/BLUE
price: $5

HONEYG/CONTROL175/BLUE
price: $3

HONEYG/RUBOUT175/BLUE
price: $2
HONEYG/LOTUS175/BLUE
price: $6
HONEYG/LOTUS175S/BLUE
price: $6
HONEYG/SYMBOLS/B/VIOLETT
price: $5

HONEYG/CUREXTRA/C/VIOLETT
price: $6

HONEYG/CURSYM/VIOLETT
price: $12

HONEYG/MOD100E/VIOLETT
price: $5

HONEYG/POSTRASH/BLUE
price: $9

HONEYG/POSJ/BLUE
price: $4
HONEYB/HYPER7/CADET
price: $299

HONEYB/HYPER7/POS
price: $89

HONEYB/HYPER7/BASE
price: $89
HONEYB/ALPHAINT/RED
price: $36

HONEYB/ISO/VIOLETT
price: $16

HONEYB/UK/BLUE
price: $9

HONEYB/INTER/BLACK
price: $45

HONEYB/INTER/SPH
price: $45

HONEYB/MODBASE100/VIOLETT
price: $9

HONEYB/MODBASE125/VIOLETT
price: $24

HONEYB/MODIFIER125D/VIOLETT
price: $18

HONEYB/MODIFIER125E/VIOLETT
price: $16

HONEYB/MODEXTRA100/VIOLETT
price: $7

HONEYB/MODEXTRA150/RED
price: $29

HONEYB/MODEXTRA150/BLUE
price: $29

HONEYB/MODEXTRA150/VIOLETT
price: $29

HONEYB/MODSYM150/R3/VIOLETT
price: $9

HONEYB/CURSOR/R34/VIOLETT
price: $6

HONEYB/CURSOREXTRA2/VIOLETT
price: $9
HONEYB/NUMNUM/BLACK
price: $25

HONEYB/NUMOP/WHITE
price: $19

HONEYB/FUNCTION/BLACK
price: $36

HONEYB/FUNCTION/VIOLETT
price: $39

HONEYB/SPACE400/SPH
price: $7

HONEYB/SPACE400/BLUE
price: $7

HONEYB/SPACE400/VIOLETT
price: $7

HONEYB/SPACE625/WHITE
price: $5

HONEYB/SPACE625/GREY
price: $5

HONEYB/SPACE700/WHITE
price: $7

HONEYB/SPACE700/GREY
price: $7

G/DCSDSA0402
price: $16

G/ESCAPE200/BLACK
price: $2

HONEY/INTER/RED/OVR
price: $12

HONEY/7BIT
price: $12

HONEY/MODEXTRA175
price: $27

HONEY/MODSYM150
price: $21

HONEY/MODSYM125/BLACK
price: $19

HONEY/NUMERIC7/GREY
price: $29

HONEY/NUMERIC7/WHITE
price: $29

HONEY/FUNCTION/R3
price: $36

HONEY/F13TOF24/WHITE
price: $12

HONEY/SPACE450/RED
price: $9
EU sellout! 50% off everything!!! Until the end of this month!

Order key caps worth up to $1000 and pay only 50% of the price.

The catch: You must pay via SEPA in EUR!

Excluded are everybody who ever got a refund!
(except if you got the refund for a lost order etc.)

Only for incomming EUR-payments until 2 May 2017!!!

Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 19:10
by SL89
I just realize I haven't ordered anything for myself since the Honey Leftover stuff. I was meaning to get in on Cadet, but it never panned out

Re: Round 5 in stock / Round 6 in production / 50% rebate / EU only!
Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 19:18
by hansichen
Should we just pay 50% of the price of should it be displayed at 50% of the price in the 7bot invoice?
Posted: 24 Apr 2017, 19:28
by 7bit
Just pay 50% of what you see. I will apply the rebate after your EUR-payment came in.
@SL89: No 50% sellout for you, but there is still some nice stuff available ...

Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 03:18
by jotix
7bit wrote: Just pay 50% of what you see. I will apply the rebate after your EUR-payment came in.
The offer is only for what is shown here above or for anything I have in the invoice right now?
Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 05:39
by Lukas
I'm really sorry to sound like a broken record, but I was just wondering when I can expect shipping. I fixed my stupid mistake of not entering SHIPNOW, and corrected a partially missing address, so I just wanted to know how long it usually takes for leftover caps to ship. Thanks.
Re: Round 5 in stock / Round 6 in production / 50% rebate / EU only!
Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 08:08
by beamingrobot
I'd love to get some of those keys but I can't pay via SEPA
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Posted: 25 Apr 2017, 11:02
by showmeyourkitties
7bit,
i never get replies with the WASSUP status mail enquiry to 7bot. could you let me know where i am at, order 0608? thanks.