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Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 09:15
by lot_lizard
These are the same yahoos we tried ordering through before when we saw availability, but later received a note back that they were out of stock. I don't recall the posting having a picture before though. Might have updates and some taun-taun posted the wrong pic. Doesn't hurt to try.
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 09:16
by y11971alex
There is, but there have been developments. I've been since unblocked from their site, and they're taking my calls again. So this falls into the interesting category, and I'm by no means asking any one of you to risk $177 on this POS keyboard.
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 09:36
by emdude
Please correct me if I am wrong here, but you are looking for the 66-key 3277 beam spring keyboard? Interestingly enough, I counted up the number of keys on the POS keyboard in the listing's photo and the total actually is 66, so these guys may just be really confused.
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 09:43
by y11971alex
emdude wrote: Please correct me if I am wrong here, but you are looking for the 66-key 3277 beam spring keyboard? Interestingly enough, I counted up the number of keys on the POS keyboard in the listing's photo and the total actually is 66, so these guys may just be really confused.
But that POS board bears a completely different part number
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 09:55
by emdude
Well, they still may be confused, or perhaps unable or unwilling to see that it is indeed a different keyboard. Hopefully your communications with them improve though.
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 10:07
by hypkx
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 10:12
by kbdfr
… in Erding, Bavaria, Germany. And it says: "No shipping".
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 10:16
by y11971alex
emdude wrote: Well, they still may be confused, or perhaps unable or unwilling to see that it is indeed a different keyboard. Hopefully your communications with them improve though.
That may be true, but I'd still advise caution if anyone is to purchase it.
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 10:26
by kbdfr
Two nice keyboards starting at 50€ each, I happen to know who the seller is: a long-time and formerly very active DT member who hasn't shown up here in the last year or so.
Nixdorf Cherry G80-0942HAD /02 MX Black Tastatur Keyboard
IBM Model M Tastatur ANSI US 1390131 1987 Keyboard
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 11:14
by jaffers
Posted: 07 Aug 2016, 13:52
by Slom
jaffers wrote:
Why is that?
heres what I can see:
These are montereys, not "Green Clones Alps"
Look at the arrow keys
what else?
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 08:30
by y11971alex
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 08:38
by tentator
If it only was in Europe. .

What layout is that? Looks so brand new to me?...
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 08:57
by Wodan
Looks amazing, rubberdome though.
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 09:01
by y11971alex
Wodan wrote:
Looks amazing, rubberdome though.
But can it be converted for PC use? I'm actually in need of a good rubber dome keyboard that isn't Topre.
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 09:19
by tentator
It's from 91.. well then rubberdome and not exactly what I would call a good one.. now it's clear why it looks soo clean

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Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 09:27
by Wodan
y11971alex wrote:
But can it be converted for PC use? I'm actually in need of a good rubber dome keyboard that isn't Topre.
According to Chyros those things are the closest thing to a Topre:
http://www.ebay.de/itm/102-Tasten-Keybo ... 2217596221
And the sliders are Cherry MX compatible!!
Be aware the stabilized keys are NOT Cherry Compatible.
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 09:32
by lot_lizard
y11971alex wrote: Wodan wrote: y11971alex wrote: ^The space saving space unsaver?

Looks amazing, rubberdome though.
But can it be converted for PC use? I'm actually in need of a good rubber dome keyboard that isn't Topre.
I got one from Cindy a couple months back to take some measurements and see if we could fit F switches in it. Turns out it is "doable", albeit quite tricky. It won't be a project I undertake anytime soon, but would help someone else if they wanted to (plan on quite a bit of research effort). Regardless... it is a nice rubberdome, and the case is well made (feet are especially fun). If someone wants mine, you are welcome to the $35 USD I paid... BUT... You will need to source a right shift key (missing). No idea about converting the connector.
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 09:35
by y11971alex
Sadly, my German is rather hopeless. ♬Wie, wie, wie!♬
lot_lizard wrote: y11971alex wrote: Wodan wrote:
Looks amazing, rubberdome though.
But can it be converted for PC use? I'm actually in need of a good rubber dome keyboard that isn't Topre.
I got one from Cindy a couple months back to take some measurements and see if we could fit F switches in it. Turns out it is "doable", albeit quite tricky. It won't be a project I undertake anytime soon, but would help someone else if they wanted to (plan on quite a bit of research effort). Regardless... it is a nice rubberdome, and the case is well made (feet are especially fun). If someone wants mine, you are welcome to the $35 USD I paid... BUT... You will need to source a right shift key (missing). No idea about converting the connector.
So it doesn't work with Soarer's converter?
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 09:58
by emdude
y11971alex wrote: Wodan wrote:
Looks amazing, rubberdome though.
But can it be converted for PC use? I'm actually in need of a good rubber dome keyboard that isn't Topre.
I've heard pretty good things about BTC Domes over sliders, which you can find in a board like the BTC 5100C.
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 10:00
by Wodan
http://imgur.com/a/VlSZL
Took some more pics of one of my models. It's a pretty sturdy built for a rubberdome too. Nice metal plate on the bottom!
Comes with PS/2 cable so I guess any PS/2=>USB Converter will do the job!
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 10:07
by lot_lizard
y11971alex wrote: So it doesn't work with Soarer's converterm
No idea. It is some sort of molecular connector plug (think RJ-style), but I didn't pay any attention. PM me if you would like me to dig it out. Having said that, even if different than the terminal M's, I'm pretty sure you could turn a coconut into a functional USB keyboard with Soarer's code and a little patience. For the missing right shift... they are curious little 2-piece caps. This is missing the "keycap" portion. So think Model M with only the keystem as an analogy. The key is functional, but not pleasant to look at.
Re: Great/Interesting Finds
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 12:23
by Phenix
do those cheap Topre alike keyboards also exist in German and TKL?
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 13:25
by snuci
lot_lizard wrote: y11971alex wrote: y11971alex wrote: ^The space saving space unsaver?

But can it be converted for PC use? I'm actually in need of a good rubber dome keyboard that isn't Topre.
I got one from Cindy a couple months back to take some measurements and see if we could fit F switches in it. Turns out it is "doable", albeit quite tricky. It won't be a project I undertake anytime soon, but would help someone else if they wanted to (plan on quite a bit of research effort). Regardless... it is a nice rubberdome, and the case is well made (feet are especially fun). If someone wants mine, you are welcome to the $35 USD I paid... BUT... You will need to source a right shift key (missing). No idea about converting the connector.
lot_lizard,
Is it like
my IBM 73x3832 here? I saw that auction and thought it was the same as mine but it has a different model number. My cord is different so maybe mine is for a different terminal. It does look awesome in person.
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 16:25
by lot_lizard
snuci wrote: y11971alex wrote: y11971alex wrote: ^The space saving space unsaver?

Is it like
my IBM 73x3832 here? I saw that auction and thought it was the same as mine but it has a different model number. My cord is different so maybe mine is for a different terminal. It does look awesome in person.
Mine from Cindy would be like the auction (same part number and 8-pin modular connector). The more I look at it, I like it. Currently cleaning. Hate to be that guy, but since nobody jumped, I might just keep. It really is a nicer switch than I was giving it credit for (like you pointed out, spacebar needs work though). If this really is a dream board for someone though, PM me
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 16:29
by seebart
I should have gotten one of those when I had the chance, regret it to this day. We've had that same switch and keyboard here before more than once. Calling it a plain rubberdome is quite an understatement really, then again Topre is a rubberdome too.

Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 16:37
by snuci
lot_lizard wrote: Mine from Cindy would be like the auction (same part number and 8-pin modular connector). The more I look at it, I like it. Currently cleaning. Hate to be that guy, but since nobody jumped, I might just keep. It really is a nicer switch than I was giving it credit for (like you pointed out, spacebar needs work though).
Sorry for not being more clear. I guess my real question is, Is it also blue Micro Switch domes?
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 16:49
by lot_lizard
snuci wrote: Sorry for not being more clear. I guess my real question is, Is it also blue Micro Switch domes?
It is... Identical to yours other than the connector it seems
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 18:31
by iamacicada
Posted: 08 Aug 2016, 23:51
by Hypersphere