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Posted: 12 Dec 2014, 18:52
by ne0phyte
matt3o wrote: oh almost forgot... there's a catch...
to speed the prototyping phase I have to provide BSP with a topre keyboard............ I'll fight to have it back of course, but still someone has to sacrifice a beloved topre to the altar of PBT spacebar
Do they need a whole keyboard or just the space bar mount? Maybe someone (Mr Interface? 002?) has a broken Topre board that they would be willing to give.
Worst case: Add a type heaven or used topre board to the total cost and let the community fund the board.
Posted: 12 Dec 2014, 19:02
by matt3o
worst case scenario I'll give them my Leopold...
I guess a not working keyboard would be fine as well, I think they will only check if it mechanically works. Anyway we will think about it when and if we will place the final order.
Posted: 12 Dec 2014, 19:17
by Hypersphere
Posted: 12 Dec 2014, 23:54
by matt3o
Most voted colors so far:
blue
red
light blue
light green
medium gray
purple
orange
pink
they are all very close! keep voting
Posted: 12 Dec 2014, 23:59
by ne0phyte
No love for green?

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 00:01
by matt3o
yes green is right after, as I said, they are all very close. The only color without love is brown

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 09:42
by matt3o
Okay guys, this is incredible. We are already at 21% in less than 24h!
I believe there's hope for this to become a reality! Spread the word!
Color preference so far:
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[Sky Blue/Light Blue]
[Red]
[Medium gray]
[Mint/Light Green]
[Purple]
[Orange]
[Pink]
[Blue]
[Yellow]
[Green]
[Lavender]
[Beige]
[Magenta]
They are all very close up to Green. Nothing is set to stone yet.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 10:55
by Muirium
Of course, that was the easy 20%. But it's a great start in a day! This is looking definitely doable. Especially with MK behind it. Great work!
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 11:33
by 002
ne0phyte wrote: Do they need a whole keyboard or just the space bar mount? Maybe someone (Mr Interface? 002?) has a broken Topre board that they would be willing to give.
Worst case: Add a type heaven or used topre board to the total cost and let the community fund the board.
But Topre boards don't break! Actually I'm kidding, I've seen some in pretty bad shape on Yahoo Auctions.
I have donated once to this cause already (in the form of a space bar) and would happily do it again, but the thing is, it would likely be the Deskthority Realforce Tour board. As it's already in Europe, it could potentially reach matt3o faster anyway, but it would mean no more tours until I could get a replacement for it or matt3o retrieves it.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 13:18
by matt3o
thanks 002
ideally the group buy should cover the additional board. if you can have the realforce to reach me I can surely use that, it would be just a loan, as soon as they are done I'll ask to have it back (but it may take few months)
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 14:12
by Daniel Beardsmore
matt3o wrote: I was calling them white and black and people went all "but it's noooot black and it's not puuuure white".
There I thought it was just me who believed that Topre keyboards are charcoal grey and not black.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 14:26
by Muirium
Give a pedant a bone, and he'll tell you it's cartilage.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 15:20
by matt3o
I'll make so 002 will get as many free spacebars as possible

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 15:27
by 002
Rock on

Thanks for organising this, matt3o. I can't wait to see how they look. Hopefully there's enough interest.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 15:39
by Khers
Worst case scenario; everyone has to buy the quintuple amount they signed up for

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 19:43
by matt3o
I showed these preliminary results to some companies and they were overwhelmed. One offered to pay the advance for the tooling right away... I'm pretty thrilled, honestly I didn't think this could work, but it seems we have really a chance here.
Keep participating!
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 20:30
by Juice
Fantastic, now get them to produce full sets aswell

Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 20:32
by Muirium
What would we do different, for the rest of the set? Topre's are already PBT, besides the spacebar.
Different fonts? Different colours? Different… drumroll… profile!??! Uh, Matt, I remember you saying something about PBT SA a while back…
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 20:47
by Juice
Well, it would be nice with different colors schemes. The mx crowd is kinda spoiled for choice, can't say the same when it comes to topre caps. I do understand why but one can dream.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 20:58
by Khers
I don't get why Topre ended production of colourful replacement caps. There must be a market for them! Especially given that it's so darn difficult to read the legends on Topres black (sorry, dark grey) keycaps. Given that widebasket is currently charging $150 a set on ebay, there seems to be a hole in the market for someone to fill.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 21:31
by Juice
They should start selling Novatouch like stems, that would open up a new world of possibilities. Sure you would still have to make special spacebars due to the stabilizer spacing. Are there any other compatability issues using mx keycaps on Realforce boards?
Sorry for thread derail.
Posted: 13 Dec 2014, 23:12
by vinzbe
Related to that, wouldn't it be more interesting for some people to order 2 "Topre to MX Slider v2.0beta"?
Edit: The spacing between 2 switches is probably not the same so forget it.
Posted: 14 Dec 2014, 08:54
by matt3o
Juice wrote: Are there any other compatability issues using mx keycaps on Realforce boards?
you need the housing for each stabilized key, it easier (cheaper) to have just the spacebar in PBT with topre stem.
Quick update:
we are at 27% of the total. Long way to go, keep rolling!
Preferred colors so far:
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[Medium gray]
[Sky Blue/Light Blue]
[Red]
[Purple]
[Mint/Light Green]
[Pink]
[Orange]
[Blue]
[Green]
[Lavender]
[Yellow]
[Beige]
[Brown]
[Magenta]
Posted: 16 Dec 2014, 08:26
by matt3o
quick update.
we are at 33%
color preference
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[Medium gray]
[Sky Blue/Light Blue]
[Red]
[Purple] [Mint/Light Green] [Blue]
[Pink] [Orange]
[Green]
[Lavender]
[Beige]
[Yellow]
[Brown]
[Magenta]
Posted: 16 Dec 2014, 10:05
by cookie
33% I have faith that we can do it!
The color preferences are promising

Pink is definately my favorite!
Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 11:30
by Ascaii
PINK AND ORANGE MASTERRACE
Seriously, I want them.
Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 13:24
by cookie
I'd be in for a set of pinks for sure!
Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 21:05
by Khers
I agree, vote pink!

Posted: 17 Dec 2014, 21:16
by Muirium
I may have been the first vote pink got, a few minutes after Matteo posted the poll! (But it's a fractional vote. I never said I would order it…)
Posted: 18 Dec 2014, 09:17
by atlas3686
Nice to see this is on track, medium gray for the win
Isn't colour matching the coloured spacebars going to be tough, I mean will the medium gray work with 10th AE gray and will the pink match the pink realforce set?