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Posted: 04 May 2016, 14:55
by zuglufttier
Each to his own :D

I'm just not a collector. There's no material thing anywhere you can truly own or have. In the end, there's only your mind of which you are partly in control. But there's a lot of things you can do to cover up for that, like collecting keyboards or writing in a keyboad forum about keyboard collecting.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 15:02
by seebart
zuglufttier wrote: Each to his own :D

I'm just not a collector. There's no material thing anywhere you can truly own or have. In the end, there's only your mind of which you are partly in control. But there's a lot of things you can do to cover up for that, like collecting keyboards or writing in a keyboad forum about keyboard collecting.
Yes I agree, although I hope that all of us are very much in control of their minds! :o

Posted: 04 May 2016, 15:15
by zuglufttier
Well, at least for some hours of the day :D I also know of very effective methods to lessen that control :mrgreen:

Posted: 04 May 2016, 15:26
by derzemel
The NIB model F XT now has a lower price (475USD, from 650)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272231350307

Posted: 04 May 2016, 15:28
by Prelim
I already called dibs 2 times on this :/

Posted: 04 May 2016, 15:30
by derzemel
Leading Edge computer with probably Blue Alps keyboard + Manuals and Accessories (350USD starting bid):

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1985-Leading-Ed ... 1939183162

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Posted: 04 May 2016, 15:58
by seebart
zuglufttier wrote: Well, at least for some hours of the day :D I also know of very effective methods to lessen that control :mrgreen:
Oh yes those are well known, just be careful with the dosage!
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derzemel wrote: Leading Edge computer with probably Blue Alps keyboard + Manuals and Accessories (350USD starting bid):
Nice to see the whole setup for a change!
derzemel wrote: The NIB model F XT now has a lower price (475USD, from 650)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/272231350307
And I bet you that price will be going down again. :evilgeek:

Posted: 04 May 2016, 17:08
by ohaimark
I <3 all of those Leading Edge logos. Almost makes me wish I was a retrocomputing collector and not a keyboard enthusiast...

Posted: 04 May 2016, 17:12
by Chyros
ohaimark wrote: I <3 all of those Leading Edge logos. Almost makes me wish I was a retrocomputing collector and not a keyboard enthusiast...
Hahaha I was just going to say exactly the same, LE really loved their logo didn't they? xD

Posted: 04 May 2016, 17:37
by derzemel
ohaimark wrote: I <3 all of those Leading Edge logos. Almost makes me wish I was a retrocomputing collector and not a keyboard enthusiast...
We should summon Snuci :P

Posted: 04 May 2016, 17:58
by Compgeke
ohaimark wrote: I <3 all of those Leading Edge logos. Almost makes me wish I was a retrocomputing collector and not a keyboard enthusiast...
Never too late to get started, us computer collectors don't bite :). Buy that Leading Edge and find a network card and you can even get on IRC with it no problem.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 19:15
by ohaimark
It's too rich for me at the moment, unfortunately. Just joined Google Fi and spent my last discretionary funds on their excellent Nexus 5X deal.

They certainly loved their logo! And, speaking of summoning, it does look mildly occult. If one were to use it in a ritual one would likely get an entity from Korean folklore (which wouldn't speak English :lol:).

Posted: 04 May 2016, 20:54
by Abstractions
The questions on the leading edge though:
Q: I would be interested in purchasing the keyboard separately.
A: I know that the keyboard would sell easily, but I'm more interested in selling the entire system at once. Sorry.
May 01, 2016
Q: What is the model number of the keyboard (look on back side label)? Thanks.
A: They keyboard model # is DC-2014
You can tell we've been there :D .

Posted: 04 May 2016, 21:03
by emdude
It would be such a shame to have the keyboard part with a complete computer, with manuals and accessories to boot! :o

Posted: 04 May 2016, 21:04
by Compgeke
Agree on that. Harder to find complete sets than separate keyboard and computer. It's also turning a lot of vintage computer collectors against us here, thinking we do nothing but separate sets and destroy the keyboards for parts.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 21:05
by Engicoder
emdude wrote: It would be such a shame to have the keyboard part with a complete computer, with manuals and accessories to boot! :o
I completely agree with you.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 21:10
by emdude
Compgeke wrote: Agree on that. Harder to find complete sets than separate keyboard and computer. It's also turning a lot of vintage computer collectors against us here, thinking we do nothing but separate sets and destroy the keyboards for parts.
That would have certainly been the case here with the DC-2014.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 21:31
by fohat
Compgeke wrote:
Harder to find complete sets than separate keyboard and computer.

It's also turning a lot of vintage computer collectors against us here, thinking we do nothing but separate sets and destroy the keyboards for parts.
I can see the point, but how much demand is there, really, for old DOS computers? How much is my 35mm camera worth?

Consider the auto junkyard with the obsolete cars, rusting away for years, until someone wants that seat or steering wheel.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 21:39
by Blaise170
There's probably more demand for old computers than one would think. I just sold a NEC PC for $150, if I would've shipped the monitor from Japan it could have probably been double that. Not to mention the Blue Alps keyboard I'm keeping for myself. I only have one older PC myself (Sharp X68000) but it's pretty cool and I'd certainly buy more if I had the space and monetary means.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 23:35
by emdude

Posted: 04 May 2016, 23:45
by seebart
Another $600 hype.
Seller refurbished:
I bet the seller did not refurbish the actual Alps SKCM blue switches, if that is even necessary in this case.

Posted: 04 May 2016, 23:52
by emdude
Indeed! There's already a bid from someone with 0 feedback.

Posted: 05 May 2016, 00:03
by Engicoder
fohat wrote:
Spoiler:
Compgeke wrote:
Harder to find complete sets than separate keyboard and computer.

It's also turning a lot of vintage computer collectors against us here, thinking we do nothing but separate sets and destroy the keyboards for parts.
I can see the point, but how much demand is there, really, for old DOS computers? How much is my 35mm camera worth?

Consider the auto junkyard with the obsolete cars, rusting away for years, until someone wants that seat or steering wheel.
On a general level, I agree with you, there is not much demand for the majority of old DOS computers, especially those in poor condition or missing parts, but here is a well known model in very good condition that is complete and includes documentation. The car analogy: There would not be much demand for a 69 station wagon with a trashed interior and severe rust, but there would be for a 69 Camaro in original condition with dealer invoice, window sticker, and owners manual.

My analogy is not a great one as obviously there is more demand for old cars than old computers, but you get the idea.

Posted: 05 May 2016, 00:05
by chiptea
emdude wrote: Indeed! There's already a bid from someone with 0 feedback.
Ebay should really not allow people with no feedback to bid. It's so easy to self bid and drive up prices wayy above what they're supposed to be. Guess they don't want to fix it cause it benefits them. More of a % profit if the prices are higher...

Posted: 05 May 2016, 01:36
by Muirium
Could also be a small matter of not wanting to strangle their platform. How are new users meant to get a feedback score if they are locked out of interaction until they get a feedback score?

A lot of people only ever buy. Took me years to do my first sale on eBay.

Posted: 05 May 2016, 01:40
by XMIT
fohat wrote: How much is my 35mm camera worth?
Don't know, but PM me if you have any nice Nikon lenses you want to unload. :evilgeek:

Posted: 05 May 2016, 02:16
by ohaimark
emdude wrote: Acer 6011 w/ Blue Alps: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-6011-Blue- ... Sw6wRW~ric
- Near-mint condition
- Blue Alps switches
- ANSI-like layout
- Fully tested and working
Using part of my description AGAIN. Don't eBay sellers know how to write their own fluff?

Posted: 05 May 2016, 02:21
by chiptea
Muirium wrote: Could also be a small matter of not wanting to strangle their platform. How are new users meant to get a feedback score if they are locked out of interaction until they get a feedback score?

A lot of people only ever buy. Took me years to do my first sale on eBay.
That's true. I wonder what kind of method would work to stop shill bidding? Stuff like this is kind of a problem.

Posted: 05 May 2016, 17:19
by Blaise170
Yep I'm interested in the whole package but it'll probably get bid up by trolls wanting the keyboard and up out of my price range.

Posted: 05 May 2016, 17:40
by Chyros
Admittedly that's arguably the best-looking chassis Acer ever used. Doesn't look quite as thick or tough as the KB-101A chassis, but more elegant IMO.