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Posted: 02 May 2016, 21:36
by shreebles
Very cool keyboard, I do not share your enthusiasm of these keycaps, but mine are a lot more yellowed and worn.

Here is what I did with them
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My keyboard looked like this, so I have the same caps, but not in the good condition shown on the photo.
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Posted: 02 May 2016, 22:31
by tentator
Nice!! But you don't like them so much because of them being yellowed/worn only? What about their sound? What are those switches? But do you agree that any price above say 80 is just a robbery? ;)

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:37
by seebart

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:40
by scottc
Nice project, tentator. Glad to see that the keycaps are going to good use. :D

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:42
by seebart
tentator wrote: But do you agree that any price above say 80 is just a robbery? ;)
Quite a few people paid 250 Euros for the exact same keyboard. :o :x

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:43
by emdude
NIB IBM Model F XT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-Vint ... Sw2x1XKBse

The price seems kinda hyperbolic. But hey, free shipping! :P

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:46
by seebart
Err yeah emdude OK it's NIB but that's another exapmle of greedy pricing. 250-300 might be realistic, but even that might not sell since XT's are not that in demand.

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:50
by emdude
Oh yeah, I certainly agree it wouldn't fall under the "Great Find" category. Still a bit interesting though, and a few people seem to think so too. :P

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:54
by seebart
Oh don't get me wrong I don't mind you posting it. I wonder if it will sell. The [great] part of "Great/Interesting Finds" is the one that does not actually occur so often. ;)

Posted: 03 May 2016, 09:59
by emdude
Yup! It will be interesting to see if someone actually buys it. This is the first NIB XT I've seen myself. :lol:

Anyhow..

IBM Model M5-1: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-M5- ... SwIjNXJmuQ

IBM Model M5-2: http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-M5- ... SwIjNXJm3l

The M5-1 seems to be somewhat rarer than the M5-2; I've seen the latter a few times the past couple of months. I do like that they have detachable SDL cables unlike the M13/15.

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:03
by seebart
Hmm both of those are nice, both don't show up too often. I'd love to try the M M5-1, I like the way the mini-trackball is positioned. Yeah the I'd say the M M5-1 is rarer.

Re: Great/Interesting Finds

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:11
by Phenix
How much do you value the m5-1? (I never tried an trackball so far)

typos due to my touch screen are possible[size]

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:13
by Chyros
emdude wrote: NIB IBM Model F XT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-Vint ... Sw2x1XKBse

The price seems kinda hyperbolic. But hey, free shipping! :P
Oh, that's awesome :D . I wish I was rich xD .

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:15
by seebart
Phenix wrote: How much do you value the m5-1? (I never tried an trackball so far)
I can't, I don't know. I'd certainly pay 50-75 for it in good condition. They are quite rare, even more so in our parts Phenix!

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:17
by seebart
Chyros wrote:
emdude wrote: NIB IBM Model F XT: http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-IN-BOX-Vint ... Sw2x1XKBse

The price seems kinda hyperbolic. But hey, free shipping! :P
Oh, that's awesome :D . I wish I was rich xD .
You kidding me man, this from the guy who picks up an industrial M for what 25p at the recycling center. Give me a fucking break. Sell that for € 700 and get all the F's you want including my displaywriter.

Re: Great/Interesting Finds

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:18
by Phenix
Thanks for the advice! Will place a bid

edit: Was too fast :o
Shipping is too high for me/for this board

typos due to my touch screen are possible[size]

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:28
by alh84001
seebart wrote: Sell that for € 700 and get all the F's you want including my displaywriter.
Careful, someone might take you up on that offer :)

Posted: 03 May 2016, 10:30
by seebart
alh84001 wrote:
seebart wrote: Sell that for € 700 and get all the F's you want including my displaywriter.
Careful, someone might take you up on that offer :)
No I was kidding, It's not for sale (at the moment). :oops:

Posted: 03 May 2016, 11:13
by shreebles
tentator wrote: Nice!! But you don't like them so much because of them being yellowed/worn only? What about their sound? What are those switches?
In terms of sound, I only like thick PBT. Nothing comes close. Thick POM sounds alright, but doesn't feel as good. Thick doubleshot ABS is a distant third place in terms of sound (too high pitched). These were rather thin, though, if I remember this correctly.
seebart wrote:
tentator wrote: But do you agree that any price above say 80 is just a robbery? ;)
Quite a few people paid 250 Euros for the exact same keyboard. :o :x
I would agree that paying more than 8 times the price of regular blacks is a robbery. 4-5 times, ok.
250€, that's crazy. Almost blue Alps crazy.

They are mostly so expensive due to their rarity. The fact that they are visually different from pretty much every Cherry MX switch increases their mythical status. They are one of the best, probably the best switch Cherry ever produced.
But not the holy grail that everyone makes them out to be. Not nowadays when we can buy well-used 20 year old MX Black switches, or lube switches ourselves.
For me, smooth old blacks are good enough:
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shreebles wrote: Rebuilt my FaceW with "old" Blacks and light Cherry springs (taken from Browns) today.

The Blacks are not vintage but they are quite smooth, from a very old and well-worn G80. Compared to Nixies I'd say they are about 80% there in terms of smoothness.

Posted: 03 May 2016, 11:19
by Chyros
seebart wrote:
alh84001 wrote:
seebart wrote: Sell that for € 700 and get all the F's you want including my displaywriter.
Careful, someone might take you up on that offer :)
No I was kidding, It's not for sale (at the moment). :oops:
Heheheheh, see, I'm not alone, you don't want to sell either :p .

I really love my industrial M, it's so nice :D . Can't part with something like that!

Posted: 03 May 2016, 13:22
by zuglufttier
Is that an F? I think, I want it...

Posted: 03 May 2016, 13:41
by seebart
It's just a regular Model F XT from what I can tell.

Posted: 03 May 2016, 13:55
by zuglufttier
Converting to USB wouldn't be a problem ;)

Posted: 03 May 2016, 15:24
by hypkx
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Compaq-RT101-Tas ... Sw4hdXIf~j
Is this a mechanical keyboard? The case looks different from the rubberdome RT101.

Posted: 03 May 2016, 15:30
by tentator
I also like it!!
Would probably extremely mod it anyways..
Should I check for a cat picture you too and then compare? ;)))

Posted: 03 May 2016, 15:32
by hypkx
zuglufttier wrote:
Is that an F? I think, I want it...
I want it to :D

Posted: 03 May 2016, 15:52
by zuglufttier
hypkx wrote:
zuglufttier wrote:
Is that an F? I think, I want it...
I want it to :D
Image

Posted: 03 May 2016, 15:54
by alh84001
Image

:D

Posted: 03 May 2016, 16:06
by hypkx
zuglufttier wrote:
Is that an F? I think, I want it...
For the flippers?

Posted: 03 May 2016, 16:56
by zuglufttier
Converting my SSK to an FSSK is an option but not in the first place: I'm just curious whether I like the F at all.

PS: I won't pay much for it, just ordered four new HDDs for my NAS :D