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Posted: 05 Apr 2016, 23:50
by Dra
Looks like Foam and Foil?
Seebart owns an old Keytronic and everything points towards it, screws on the PCB, switch housings don't appear to be seperated and, well, the fact that it's a keytronic
keyboards-f2/key-tronic-corp-serial-no- ... 11875.html
Those Manurhin boards do look interesting though, seem to be some early cherry switches?
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 00:03
by timmo
Dra wrote:
Looks like Foam and Foil?
Ah, I'm still learning to identify switches, thanks for the insight.
Would this one be a Soviet hall effect?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/PTA-80-Telety ... 2183655770
edit: or magnetic reed?
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 00:16
by seebart
Yeah those look like Key Tronic F&F. Overpriced IMO you're not even getting a case with any of those. The keycaps are pretty nice but that's about it. Now for a Key Tronic magnetic reed that would be a little more interesting.
wiki/Key_Tronic_Corp._Magnetic_Reed
keyboards-f2/keytronic-industrial-find-t13459.html
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 03:17
by ohaimark
It's cool to see the wiki page I created getting some publicity.
Here's one that looks Cherry-ish but probably isn't at all:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-POSITRO ... 1698531226
And what is this? Apologies if it's already been posted:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-JIT-Tec ... 1976552341
And an expensive G80-11903HRMUS:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-PS-2-Rackmo ... 1527731497
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 07:47
by Compgeke
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 08:46
by Britney Spears
Since some people like the old Peacock case, a
Peacock for 3€ might not be a bad deal. The keycaps might be interesting too.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 10:02
by gogusrl
looks like a G83 to me.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 11:18
by Nuum
Jup, it's a G83, look at the bars on F&J.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 18:35
by ohaimark
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 19:42
by Dra
Huh, what are those switches? I'm really curious about this one
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 20:04
by ohaimark
Dra wrote:
Huh, what ware those switches? I'm really curious about this one
I'm sure you recognize the SKCL Greens. The black switches are a mystery to me. I think they're dome + membrane, but I could be wrong. I think I see an Alps logo on the PCB? The photos are awful.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 20:09
by seebart
ohaimark wrote: Dra wrote:
Huh, what ware those switches? I'm really curious about this one
I'm sure you recognize the SKCL Greens. The black switches are a mystery to me. I think they're dome + membrane, but I could be wrong. I think I see an Alps logo on the PCB? The photos are awful.
Yes there is something round on the PCB in that area, could be the Alps logo but impossible to tell.
I did some image manipulation on it but the image quality is too lously to tell:
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Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 20:18
by Blaise170
Those black ones are a relatively common Alps slider over rubber dome switch. I've seen them used in a ton of keyboards, from Qtronix to MacAlly boards.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 20:20
by seebart
Blaise170 wrote: Those black ones are a relatively common Alps slider over rubber dome switch. I've seen them used in a ton of keyboards, from Qtronix to MacAlly boards.
I don't see those in our wiki?!?
This looks different:
wiki/Alps_dome_with_slider
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 20:28
by timmo
A couple of "Dolch PAC Cherry MX Blue" boards:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dolch-PAC-Che ... 1921393248
BIN price and shipping costs make them prohibitively expensive (for me in UK).
edit: Another believer in the blue alps bubble:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/VINTAGE-COPAM ... 2083405656
edit2: Double dodgy Dolchs:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lot-of-2x-Dol ... 1904927668
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 20:46
by jerue
This exact keyboard was listed at an earlier date for a much more reasonable price. I was able to snag it, however the seller cancelled my sale said "I don't have the item on hand, but I will let you know when I get it". One of two things is happening:
1. most likely: seller is evil and a huge jerk for listing an item that wasn't on hand (who even knows if it is this time?)
2. somewhat likely and going about this the wrong way: a fake auction and maybe I'll get the keyboard for the original price I "won" for.
Either way I don't recommend dealing with this seller.
edit: I contacted the seller and now he says it's not the same keyboard...despite using the exact same product images....
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-KEYBOAR ... 2152904154
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 21:41
by ohaimark
The $10 price written on the box amuses me.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 21:51
by ohaimark
seebart wrote:
Yes there is something round on the PCB in that area, could be the Alps logo but impossible to tell.
I did some image manipulation on it but the image quality is too lously to tell . . .
It's definitely Alps. Look at dat PCB number, brah. Below is an example of a different Alps PCB from the wiki.
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 22:12
by Chyros
Oooh, SKN switches, wonder what those could be...
Posted: 06 Apr 2016, 23:26
by Blaise170
seebart wrote: Blaise170 wrote: Those black ones are a relatively common Alps slider over rubber dome switch. I've seen them used in a ton of keyboards, from Qtronix to MacAlly boards.
I don't see those in our wiki?!?
This looks different:
wiki/Alps_dome_with_slider
Also note "other types are likely to exist, and may be documented in the future." If this were anything other than rubber dome I would've already bought it.
Edit: Here is a white version of it.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 00:04
by Chyros
That's Matsushita dome with slider. Very vile.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 00:07
by seebart
Aha...so not Alps then, if that is the same switch that is.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 00:55
by ohaimark
It definitely isn't Matushita dome + slider, Chyros.
If you examine the picture the switch housings appear to be:
A) Discrete, not in a single plastic sheet
B) Mounted on a metal plate
C) Wider than the switch B170 pointed out
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 01:28
by Chyros
ohaimark wrote: It definitely isn't Matushita dome + slider, Chyros.
If you examine the picture the switch housings appear to be:
A) Discrete, not in a single plastic sheet
B) Mounted on a metal plate
C) Wider than the switch B170 pointed out
Really? Looks like a single plastic plate to me Oo . But of course I could be wrong.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 01:42
by Norman_
ohaimark wrote: It definitely isn't Matushita dome + slider, Chyros.
If you examine the picture the switch housings appear to be:
A) Discrete, not in a single plastic sheet
B) Mounted on a metal plate
C) Wider than the switch B170 pointed out
Gonna have to agree with Chryos on this one, it's definitely a single plastic sheet. Also i'm not sure i see any metal, let alone a metal plate
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 01:49
by Chyros
The keycap stems are off-centre on these btw, so although they're Alps-mount, they're not actually Alps-compatible.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 03:22
by Khronokrator
Looks like the Acer auction fell through? The seller seems to have relisted it with a BIN price of $315.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Acer-6011-Blue- ... 1960419627
Still a bit too rich for my tastes.
Edit: Panbabis' Datatech from a few weeks ago is also relisted now, with a BIN price of over $500.
No offense to these sellers; I'm sure they're pissed off by the Blue Alps bidding trolls, but those asking prices are frankly ridiculous unless the keyboards are lined with solid gold. Which they aren't.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 03:51
by kokokoy
Guess the seller realized the demand for the Dolch PAC. His remaining listing doubled the price.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 05:44
by ohaimark
Norman_ wrote: ohaimark wrote: It definitely isn't Matushita dome + slider, Chyros.
If you examine the picture the switch housings appear to be:
A) Discrete, not in a single plastic sheet
B) Mounted on a metal plate
C) Wider than the switch B170 pointed out
Gonna have to agree with Chryos on this one, it's definitely a single plastic sheet. Also i'm not sure i see any metal, let alone a metal plate
I maintain my argument. I'll also make a lowball offer on it after requesting better photos.
Photo 1 shows a pattern that looks very much like rust where a stabilizer insertion scraped off paint.
Photo 2 shows tabs that are entirely unnecessary for a solid sheet construction method.
Posted: 07 Apr 2016, 06:56
by chiptea
