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Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 18:03
by seebart
Yes Wodan the Wang jokes are always good...
It's a fullsize Wang I got from a duck
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Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 18:24
by Chyros
seebart wrote: Omron B3G-S series, a very strange mediocre switch wouldn't you agree Chyros.
They're nowhere near as well-designed as Alps switches, with several glaring flaws, including being incredibly unreliable and actuation and tactility being very poorly matched up. They're also ultra-clicky, way louder than anyone but a click nut like me could endure xD .
That said I think they're a fun and interesting switch, if not the best I've ever tried. I'm quite interested about the cyan Omnoms though
.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 18:25
by andrewjoy
Have you tried acer switches yet ?
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 18:36
by E3E
Muirium wrote: I've tried them briefly in person. The sound is dazzling, the feel not so much, but still way more appealing to me than an MX board with similarly pretty dyesubs.
I wonder if you'd like Alps SKCM Amber then? I haven't used Omnom Ambers myself, but I have e thieving suspicion that they are quite similar.
I didn't care for them very much, but maybe I'll give them another chance someday.
gogusrl wrote:
those dyesubs. seller knows how to take a pic.
Looks like ABS to me, but they might be dyesubbed ABS? I love the metal back on that Omnom board. So sturdy-looking.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 18:47
by Muirium
No such thing as dyesub ABS. That shitty plastic melts too easily to withstand the oven required.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 19:04
by Redmaus
Chyros wrote: seebart wrote: Omron B3G-S series, a very strange mediocre switch wouldn't you agree Chyros.
They're nowhere near as well-designed as Alps switches, with several glaring flaws, including being incredibly unreliable and actuation and tactility being very poorly matched up. They're also ultra-clicky, way louder than anyone but a click nut like me could endure xD .
That said I think they're a fun and interesting switch, if not the best I've ever tried. I'm quite interested about the cyan Omnoms though
.
I have a board with omnoms and I definitely agree with that point on unreliable actuation. I love the tactility though.
The actuation isn't noticable unless you look for it though. I love the click and sound
But ambers are the best alps switches I have ever tried. I plan to get even another apple iic for enough switches for a fullsize.
EDIT: Check out this monstrosity:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Spa ... SwvgdW3LhL
Portable XT
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-IBM-Key ... Sw3ydVsS0x
IBM M13
http://www.ebay.com/itm/lexmark-ibm-vin ... SwvgdW3eiI
Did anyone here get this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Antique-IBM-ter ... 7675.l2557
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 19:12
by E3E
Muirium wrote: No such thing as dyesub ABS. That shitty plastic melts too easily to withstand the oven required.
Chyros mentions that older key caps on Acer boards and the Silitek-made old logo Dell AT101 has dyesubbed ABS.
Whether it's dyesubbed or some other method, I'm not sure, but it's not a traditional pad print, that's for sure.
I have seen some really flat and seamless pad printing before though, but this dyesubbed stuff blurs into the plastic like dyesubbed PBT.
Did you really like Ambers? I think I'm the minority that doesn't like them. I might have to reevaluate them at some point. SKCM Lime (the Alps formally known as SKCM Green
) are definitely my favorite tactile switch, that's for sure. They completely shifted my declining interest in tactile switches too, so who knows.
Might have to hunt down some Ambers again.
The SSK wouldn't look so bad if they didn't have a muddled dye job with a more brownish than black dye. Oh, and the number stripe. That's really ugly.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 19:39
by Redmaus
I love ambers. I just want some SKCM Green but that might be awhile.
I know some docutechs are getting scrapped somewhere right now. Feels bad man
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 20:17
by E3E
Redmaus wrote: I love ambers. I just want some SKCM Green but that might be awhile.
I know some docutechs are getting scrapped somewhere
right now. Feels bad man
Doesn't it though? They are such exotic boards. Originally, when I scored the buy, I was so hyped on desoldering one for my Orion v2, but then I felt like I couldn't. TBH, I value vintages significantly higher up than I do modern boards in certain respects. I can't just tear apart a fascinating keyboard because it has rare switches. I don't even like desoldering blue Alps boards.
If I got a Docutech in bad shape then sure, but not these. I've never seen anyone put the SKCM Green in a custom yet aside from just one, the Dokiu Saver.
I know Jacobolus had two, one bamboo, and one in bad shape that had pine from elecplus. Nubbinator found one, and there was one that sold on eBay about two years back.
Just keep an eye out. Some publishers still use the Docutech 135 systems. One I talked to had one spare but wanted to keep it. These were super important parts of their systems (and still are for some), so I can imagine why they're so seldom seen. One of the Docutechs I have had a jumped wire repair. It's like they just maintained these at all costs.
Replacements probably were not cheap at all. Elecplus/Cindy might have one in their huge keyboard lot. I'd laugh though if not a single one is in that giant boatload.
I mean, you'd think with bulk that, there will be at least one of every board we know and lust over, but I guess it's possible that there might not be. We'll have to wait and see.
Oh right, and another liquidator I talked to had a ton of Docutech 135 spare parts, even a mouse, but no keyboards at all.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 20:30
by Redmaus
The Dokiu saver is something legendary, and an Orion v2 is my wet dream. I really want an orion to put my ambers into. Does anyone know if duck is making an orion v3 anytime soon?
And yeah, vintages are a part of history. It is very hard to desolder them. I keep all the cases, plates, and PCB's of the boards I desolder.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 20:39
by E3E
I was actually offered a Dokiusaver for double the asking price of Orion v2s recently (it's actually an OTD keyboard). To be honest, it does not look as appealing to me as the Orion v2 does. It's a flat case with domed feet, which is eeeh. Not even any cool logos like the Kingsaver, and well... Apparently Dokiusaver is not a pun on Docutech, it's a combination of two forum members' names from Korea who designed it, though it's really kind of funny that it sounds just like "Docu," because it seemed intentional.
I passed on the Dokiusaver.
The Orion v3 is probably going to come around sometime next year in 2017.
Yeah, I keep all of my vintage components after desoldering as well. While I like the SKCM Greens a lot, like to the point of it being my favorite tactile Alps, I don't think I'm going to put them in my Orion at all. Even though it's gonna be hotswap modded. I've had enough of opening switches after that restoration, haha.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 20:40
by photekq
Why do people keep calling it the Dokiusaver? Just call it the DK Saver like everyone else..
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 20:50
by E3E
It's because of this man:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ALPS-DOKIU-SAVE ... 4178d93d32
To those who haven't heard of the DK before that, well... It's been immortalized, especially as it was one of the first sightings of Alps SKCM Green. Though to be honest, I wouldn't want a Donkey Kong Saver anyway.
Nothing against it though, but I do think it's not that much of a looker. If anything buying one would be out of its obscurity alone and nothing else, and that just doesn't drive me.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 20:58
by zuglufttier
seebart wrote: zuglufttier wrote: If you know anything easier, go ahead
No I don't, I did not mean to imply that you're doing that on prupose. Who would? I wonder what solution ebay has for this situation?
I don't think there is any... Cancel the deal, make a new one. Well, maybe the second highest bidder will take it
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 21:03
by rddm
zuglufttier I'm still waiting for the olivetti
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 21:39
by zuglufttier
I posted it the very next day (this monday), check the tracking number I provided on eBay.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 23:08
by Engicoder
Pretty sure this is quasi-ANSI space invaders. ANSI enter, but bottom row non-standard.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152009716214
Seller declined offers up to $60, but then I had burned my 3 offers.
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 23:13
by XMIT
WeirdStuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale, CA has an NEC White Ovals (linear) keyboard and a Televideo Model 925 (Futaba linear) keyboard awaiting the next person to go there and buy them. Any takers?
- NEC White Ovals (linear)
- IMG_20160308_095852.jpg (664.57 KiB) Viewed 5226 times
- Televideo Model 925 (Futaba linear)
- IMG_20160308_100021.jpg (727.9 KiB) Viewed 5226 times
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 23:15
by u-ra
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 23:48
by hypkx
Engicoder wrote: Pretty sure this is quasi-ANSI space invaders. ANSI enter, but bottom row non-standard.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152009716214
Seller declined offers up to $60, but then I had burned my 3 offers.
looks more like a wyse keyboard with mx blacks
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 23:55
by tentator
XMIT wrote: WeirdStuff Warehouse in Sunnyvale, CA has an NEC White Ovals (linear) keyboard and a Televideo Model 925 (Futaba linear) keyboard awaiting the next person to go there and buy them. Any takers?
IMG_20160308_100021.jpg
WOWOW! What nice caps.. even look cherry compatible, isn't it?
If I'd be in the states I'd take it.. and how much for it actually?
Posted: 09 Mar 2016, 23:58
by Engicoder
hypkx wrote: Engicoder wrote: Pretty sure this is quasi-ANSI space invaders. ANSI enter, but bottom row non-standard.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152009716214
Seller declined offers up to $60, but then I had burned my 3 offers.
looks more like a wyse keyboard with mx blacks
Could very well be, I like to dream
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 00:02
by Chyros
E3E wrote: Muirium wrote: No such thing as dyesub ABS. That shitty plastic melts too easily to withstand the oven required.
Chyros mentions that older key caps on Acer boards and the Silitek-made old logo Dell AT101 has dyesubbed ABS.
Whether it's dyesubbed or some other method, I'm not sure, but it's not a traditional pad print, that's for sure.
Yes, I've done some extensive research into this. These caps most often appear on old Acers but the Silitek '97SK has them too. The printing has no noticeable height difference, suggesting it's not pad printing, but SEM reveals it has altered surface topology, which would suggest it's not dyesub. However the material sinks into the material a considerable distance, more than dye sublimation. Considering it reaches into the material but doesn't show any noticeable height difference, laser printing seems impossible too. All we know is it's ABS and shows some characteristics of dye sublimation, which it looks like too. So I'm going with that in the meantime.
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 00:06
by Chyros
Goddammit they're not even expensive but their shipping is fucking horrible every time D: .
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 00:24
by Abstractions
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 01:39
by Tuntematon
Another "Banana Edition" keyboard
This one an Apple M0110:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Apple-C ... SwWTRW17LB
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 02:27
by E3E
Wow, it looks like some gilded ancient relic or something.
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 02:48
by Blaise170
I've seen worse.
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 03:35
by kokokoy
Posted: 10 Mar 2016, 03:38
by Blaise170
If you want the switches, it's okay, but you'd still need keys if you wanna use it as is.