Help maybe ?

Rsk

21 Jul 2012, 17:12

Hello everyone,

My malicious keyboard currently returning the heart after a few years of honest services, I count tested with the mechanical keyboards.

My budget being rather limited, I thus call upon you to obtain the best keyboard than possible with the lowest tariff (~80€) keyboard will be mainly used for the gaming, I thus do not know which switch will be most favorable but I want absolutely to avoid the blue ones that I find very disturb.

Cordially.

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fossala
Elite +1

21 Jul 2012, 17:15

The best keyboards for that price range tend to be Cherry boards, they have the benefit of being pcb mounted so you can mod the switches if you don't like what you start with.
Knowing what country you are from could help as well.

Rsk

21 Jul 2012, 17:44

I actually live in France

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fossala
Elite +1

21 Jul 2012, 17:50

I would go with a second hand cherry black keyboard. It will be cheap and will give you a taste of mechanical keyboards. If you find the switches to heavy you could always swap the springs out with lighter ones.
Talk to Ascaii, he normally has cheap cherry boards that would give you an idea if you like them.

Djuzuh

21 Jul 2012, 17:52

This obviously is not the answer you want to hear, but there is no such solution as an excellent board for dirt cheap :x.

So I'd suggest you to either get something decent within your budget (maybe a used one?), but by accepting to let go on the quality, get a cheap or a decent rubberdome and use your money on something you think more important, or save up/revisit your life priorities and get the keyboard you want.

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fossala
Elite +1

21 Jul 2012, 17:57

Djuzuh wrote:... and use your money on something you think more important.
Bad Djuzuh, like there is something more important than input devices ;)

Rsk

21 Jul 2012, 18:05

I'm agree with the answer,

I'm just actually seeking for a cherry mx Keyboard, i found this what you think about it ?

http://www.materiel.net/clavier/cherry- ... 59233.html

Djuzuh

21 Jul 2012, 18:09

Rsk wrote:I'm agree with the answer,

I'm just actually seeking for a cherry mx Keyboard, i found this what you think about it ?

http://www.materiel.net/clavier/cherry- ... 59233.html
G81 are not cherry MX boards AFAIK, so there seem to be an error in the description.

If you want a cheap cherry mx board, and don't care that much if it's used, PM Ascaii as mentionned above.
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kint

21 Jul 2012, 18:11

cherry MX is always with the G80 designation, the board you found is a G81 meaning MY switches which are described as "typing on wet newspaper". The most horrible non-rubberdome Cherry boards imo.

edit: IF you are okay with used boards, try to find a Cherry G80-1501. These are german health insurance card reader boards, have MX switches (black) and feature Nkey rollover for your gaming experience which ordinary G80 lack. Downside is they only come in DIN connector (cheap adapter to PS/2 possible) are rather huge and don't have winkeys (might be a plus for gaming though). As it happens to be I do have such boards (without keycaps though) for cheap... :mrgreen:

Rsk

21 Jul 2012, 18:18

and isn't the Keycool 87 of hamza_tm a good purchase?

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/ ... t3166.html

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kbdfr
The Tiproman

22 Jul 2012, 06:09

As said before, MX keyboards have the designation G80, while G81 = MY keybaords.. For sure you should not buy a G81/MY keyboard for gaming.

Remember you will have to get French keycaps fitting your keyboard, which means extra cost.
Regarding hanza-tm's keyboard, it has ANSI (=US) layout, which does not just mean other keycaps, but a different physical layout: have a look at the Enter key and the key just above it, and at the left Shift key. Assuming you already use a French keyboard and want to stick to that, what you need is ISO (European) layout.

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zulios

22 Jul 2012, 10:36

If you are going to use it mainly for gaming purpose, the steelseries 6gv2 is within your budget (~75€ new). Please note however it has an unusual layout and the keys provided tend to fade quickly. People already mentioned the Cherry G80. That is a nice choice as well, although not designed for gaming purpose.

If you live in the parisian area, you can pass by and try some boards if you like. Now that I have found my board of choice, I will probably start selling my unused ones soon so it is a good opportunity to make your own opinion on switches and boards before it's too late.

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fossala
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22 Jul 2012, 10:37

Keyboards don't need to be "designed" for gaming. A cherry switch is a cherry switch. Remember, PC gaming was designed for a normal keyboard and mouse.

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zulios

22 Jul 2012, 12:03

Right, I just wanted to point out with this expression that most keyboards that bear a "gaming" tag have a better key rollover, which can be considered as useful for FPS games or such in a gamer's mind. I personnally hate FPS and therefore have little interest in that functionality, but it could be important for him.

Rsk

22 Jul 2012, 12:46

Yes, I live in Parisian Area, but here the only keyboard I have find it is the Razer Black widow with blue switches which does not interest me at all. I play much Starcraft 2 and some FPS.
Like Zulios say it, cherry are great but a not great design for what i want to do with it

Oh, and thank you with you to help me thus!

TDub

22 Jul 2012, 16:06

I also live in Europe and I just bought the Thermaltake Meka (the cheaper one, not the G1). It has cherry mx blacks, 2 usb ports and I got it for 45€ from alternate. I saw that it is much more expensive at amazon.fr but maybe you can order from amazon.de or alternate.de and have it shipped to france. The layout might not be you thing though ( i have mixed feelings about it ).

Rsk

22 Jul 2012, 16:37

Ok, I chose several keyboards, I read somes reviews by the way them but I do not manage to make my choice; Can you advise me?
Noppoo Choc Mini Keycool 87 HPE 87 didn't found anythings about it... And Thermaltake MEKA Thanks a lot !

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kint

22 Jul 2012, 16:50

The thermaltake and the HPE are plate mounted keyboards, as seen in a pic of the HPE, meaning the switch ain't mounted on the PCB but on a seperate plate. In general more sturdy, but also this means the switches can't be easily opened, ie if you want to change the MX black to MX brown, you have to dessolder ALL switches first, then change the stem to brown, then resolder all switches. Depends on how skilled you are, but I recommend you to be pretty sure to know exactly what you like as these are rather no "lets try MX first time" boards.
You can sell and by another board though.
Also notice the imo really messed up layout of the Thermaltake, with the right shift way to far left and all that.
Thermaltake and Noopoo have MX black switches, keycool and HPE have MX red switches. Red and black have the same feel but differ in "lightness" of the switch. Don't know anything else about the boards, sorry.

longweight
key-bored

22 Jul 2012, 16:53

fossala wrote:
Djuzuh wrote:... and use your money on something you think more important.
Bad Djuzuh, like there is something more important than input devices ;)
Monitors are a close second ;)

Djuzuh

22 Jul 2012, 17:37

fossala wrote:
Djuzuh wrote:... and use your money on something you think more important.
Bad Djuzuh, like there is something more important than input devices ;)

For me there isn't, but everyone has his own priorities

longweight
key-bored

22 Jul 2012, 17:44

I used to care about hardware and FPS etc, then I got a mechanical keyboard! Now all I want my PC to do is turn on, play games at an ok graphical level and show me pictures of keyboards!

Rsk

23 Jul 2012, 03:17

HPE 87, Keycool87 and PLU 87 are very similar, arent exactly the same ?

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justcallmecrash

26 Jul 2012, 20:04

longweight wrote:I used to care about hardware and FPS etc, then I got a mechanical keyboard! Now all I want my PC to do is turn on, play games at an ok graphical level and show me pictures of keyboards!
God, this is me up one side and down the other.

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