Just been offered two giant boxes of "Proper" Keyboards...
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- Main keyboard: Key Tronic KT2001
- DT Pro Member: -
Just called an old time PC contact, who says he has, and I quote "Two boxes FULL, of proper old school beige CLUNKY keyboards, the type you could use as a weapon". The boxes are 1.5ft square, jammed full of old Dell & others. My questions are these:
1/ Which Dell keyboards (bar the AT101/102W) are the best old ones?
2/ How do I ID the switches, without taking every single one apart, or removing caps?
Thanks.
1/ Which Dell keyboards (bar the AT101/102W) are the best old ones?
2/ How do I ID the switches, without taking every single one apart, or removing caps?
Thanks.
- Charlie_Brown_MX
- Location: United Kingdom
- Main keyboard: Apple Extended Keyboard
- Main mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse
- Favorite switch: ALPS: cream or salmon
- DT Pro Member: -
Googling them by model number may be your best bet, if you really don’t want to take them apart to look for yourself.glossywhite wrote:How do I ID the switches, without taking every single one apart, or removing caps?
- Ascaii
- The Beard
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: CM Novatouch, g80-1851
- Main mouse: Corsair M65
- Favorite switch: Ergo clears, Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0019
Stop asking questions without informing yourself first. Dell AT 101/102/104 are the only mechanical boards we know of (next to model M boards with dell branding).
And as for question 2...seriously, what kind of a lazy person are you, expecting everyone to deliver you answers you don't have the 5 min to read up on. The answers are in the Wikis man. And no, you won't get around getting your hands dirty and pulling caps.
And as for question 2...seriously, what kind of a lazy person are you, expecting everyone to deliver you answers you don't have the 5 min to read up on. The answers are in the Wikis man. And no, you won't get around getting your hands dirty and pulling caps.
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- Main keyboard: Key Tronic KT2001
- DT Pro Member: -
Nothing like a kind and gracious person.Ascaii wrote:Stop asking questions without informing yourself first. Dell AT 101/102/104 are the only mechanical boards we know of (next to model M boards with dell branding).
And as for question 2...seriously, what kind of a lazy person are you, expecting everyone to deliver you answers you don't have the 5 min to read up on. The answers are in the Wikis man. And no, you won't get around getting your hands dirty and pulling caps.
- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
Or just ask in a forum. Cheap and effort-saving - others do the work.koralatov wrote:Googling them by model number may be your best bet, if you really don’t want to take them apart to look for yourself.glossywhite wrote:How do I ID the switches, without taking every single one apart, or removing caps?
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- Main keyboard: Key Tronic KT2001
- DT Pro Member: -
I've never come across such a bunch of aggressive, short-tempered folk in my life. Okay, my approach has maybe not been ideal... but we're all different, and given time, I am sure there are aspects of ALL of you that I could nitpick at, and find to be MUCH more annoying... but what does that serve? Nothing.Ascaii wrote:I have read every single one of your threads...and have held myself back long enough. Start acting like an adult or gtfo.
I'm sorry I have been lazy. Let it go? I'll do more reading, and less interacting with short tempered people. I'm interested in keyboards, not arguing the toss, after all.
Thank you

- kbdfr
- The Tiproman
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: Tipro MID-QM-128A + two Tipro matrix modules
- Main mouse: Contour Rollermouse Pro
- Favorite switch: Cherry black
- DT Pro Member: 0010
This was your first posting in this forum - three and a haf days ago:
If you are experiencing a déjà vu, perhaps you should ask yourself why.glossywhite wrote:Hello!
I joined here, due to the fact that having only been a member of "geekhack" for a few hours, it seems I have already encountered the resident trolls/abusers, and I heard great things about <---this place--->
So decided the vibe was a little more relaxed.
Au revoir... for now!
- Trent
- Location: United States
- Main keyboard: IBM Model M
- DT Pro Member: -
Glossy don't take anything too personal. The attitude presented is to prevent unexperienced users that won't go and find independent research every once and a while coming in and asking: HOW DO I KEYBOARD?! -- or I WANT MODEL M EXPLAIN THIS TO ME PLEASE!! Ascaii has been kind to me in all of my threads as I have tried to ask questions presenting research I have done on a topic. Granted we all have posts where we don't know wtf to ask. I had asked a question regarding how to whiten keycaps and webwit gave me a one url answer from deskthority that I probably should have seen. Just spend a few hours reading the basics of the wiki and forum.glossywhite wrote:I've never come across such a bunch of aggressive, short-tempered folk in my life. Okay, my approach has maybe not been ideal... but we're all different, and given time, I am sure there are aspects of ALL of you that I could nitpick at, and find to be MUCH more annoying... but what does that serve? Nothing.Ascaii wrote:I have read every single one of your threads...and have held myself back long enough. Start acting like an adult or gtfo.
I'm sorry I have been lazy. Let it go? I'll do more reading, and less interacting with short tempered people. I'm interested in keyboards, not arguing the toss, after all.
Thank you
On a second note, just catch yourself in the act. I found myself spamming webwit with simple questions and then after four or five messages simply said "Don't respond to this, I am going to do more research before I consult you again. I should be able to find the answers"
On the note of the keyboards, get a keycap puller and rummage through them. You may get lucky, may not. With a whole boatload your guaranteed to get a bunch of bad boards.
And if you end up getting them show us what you get because I may be interested in some of them



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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
- DT Pro Member: -
kbdfr wrote:This was your first posting in this forum - three and a haf days ago:
If you are experiencing a déjà vu, perhaps you should ask yourself why.glossywhite wrote:Hello!
I joined here, due to the fact that having only been a member of "geekhack" for a few hours, it seems I have already encountered the resident trolls/abusers, and I heard great things about <---this place--->
So decided the vibe was a little more relaxed.
Au revoir... for now!
QFT!
Isn't he banned here?
- Ascaii
- The Beard
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: CM Novatouch, g80-1851
- Main mouse: Corsair M65
- Favorite switch: Ergo clears, Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0019
ironically, his last post before he was banned linked to the exact same youtube video.Trent wrote:As of now, yes.ripster wrote:Isn't he banned here?
Party time![]()
- Mrinterface
- Location: The Netherlands
- Main keyboard: UHK
- Main mouse: G203
- Favorite switch: Monterey blues
- DT Pro Member: 0012
I finally got the joke with that vid. I just had to watch it from start to (almost) finish.. Har har har.....
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- Location: Ugly American
- Main keyboard: As Long As It is Helvetica
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: Wanna Switch? Well, I Certainly Did!
- DT Pro Member: -
Americans invented the yodel.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Kx2sRe5l8[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4Kx2sRe5l8[/youtube]
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- Main keyboard: Key Tronic KT2001
- DT Pro Member: -
Turns out that the only decent keyboards in the batch were six Dell AT102W types. Love these boards.
- Ascaii
- The Beard
- Location: Berlin, Germany
- Main keyboard: CM Novatouch, g80-1851
- Main mouse: Corsair M65
- Favorite switch: Ergo clears, Topre
- DT Pro Member: 0019
my first true mechanical keyboard was a Dell at104w. They feel amazing at first, but once you get around to trying some other switches you will soon find them to be less enjoyable.
Its like test driving a Mazda sports car after driving in a Mini for 5 years. It feels great, but once you can sit in a Porsche, that Mazda just won't feel like it did before.
Its like test driving a Mazda sports car after driving in a Mini for 5 years. It feels great, but once you can sit in a Porsche, that Mazda just won't feel like it did before.
- captain
- Main keyboard: main? main? what is main?
- Main mouse: Mickey
- Favorite switch: it's complicated
- DT Pro Member: -
My question is: Is that 1.5 sq.ft. or 1.5' squared? It's mistakes like this that kill astronauts.glossywhite wrote:Just called an old time PC contact, who says he has, and I quote "Two boxes FULL, of proper old school beige CLUNKY keyboards, the type you could use as a weapon". The boxes are 1.5ft square, jammed full of old Dell & others. My questions are these:
ripster's video made me think back to song session days where we would sing this:
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- Main keyboard: Key Tronic KT2001
- DT Pro Member: -
These keyboards could easily kill someone, or be used as riot shields. They don't make things so tough these days, it's all crap.captain wrote:My question is: Is that 1.5 sq.ft. or 1.5' squared? It's mistakes like this that kill astronauts.glossywhite wrote:Just called an old time PC contact, who says he has, and I quote "Two boxes FULL, of proper old school beige CLUNKY keyboards, the type you could use as a weapon". The boxes are 1.5ft square, jammed full of old Dell & others. My questions are these:
ripster's video made me think back to song session days where we would sing this: