deskthority

There are the "XDA ALPS", I don't know who is producing them, but it might be available for business.
They seem to be thick or at least not thin.

Unsplit: -1000
Horizontally staggered: -1000
Flat: -10
No thumb keys: -50
MX mount: -100
Less than 2mm travel: -500

Troll off

Archie: How do you position your hand relative to the trackball? Is it parallel? Do you rest it on the trackball also?

OK, I've printed it to test the ergonomics, because I'm planning to make my own trackball design.
And I don't like it. If my hand/palm is parallel to the shell my hand/palm slips of from it. There is no ledge or anything else to stop it from falling. I have to put my hand on an angle, but then the ...

Do you have any idea where I could find balls for this thing? I tried searching for 1.75 balls, but it wasn't successful.

Why are the f1 keys offset from the number keys? What is the benefit?

Can you tell me the model number of the Apple Design keyboard? The one in the wiki doesn't have Alps style caps.

I can see that it is bending in your handwire video.

This keyboard would be a lot sturdier if you add several posts in the middle which touch the bottom to prevent the top from bending.

dr_derivative wrote: ...so let me know if I'm doing anything wrong .

Please state the mount the kit will be mode for. I guess it will be cherry mx, but it is better to state this clearly.

I've hot glued cherry mx and I'll probably have to do the same on my in-the-works alps board.
Alps have these wings or clips on the side which make them stick harder to the plate, so you could make it work without the glue.

Cleaning hot glue shouldn't be an issue, because you could melt it gain and ...

tigpha wrote: It would be a pity to not expand the software to occupy all available space and power, wouldn't it?

I'm personally striving for simplicity.
I don't know why people waste their time with protocols and apps for configuring the layout.
Especially when they are about to make a single board.

@matto: You can search for images of pravetz 8 machines on the internet. These were Bulgarian machines sold in the eastern block and as far as I can see they have the additional Russian characters, not present in the Bulgarian alphabet. Unfortunately I don't think they have all of the modifiers ...

The fun think about keyboards is that they are pretty simple, so one doesn't need any kind of OS.
You can do everything in the main loop.

The keyboard sends USB HID codes (defined here http://www.usb.org/developers/hidpage/Hut1_12v2.pdf)
Then the HID driver interprets them as the appropriate symbols.
If you want to have non default shift+Something keys you need to implement your own protocol and then write a keyboard driver that ...

The bolts and spacer idea is pretty neat. It solves one problem with the acrylic keyboard designs.
Do you glue the spacer in the middle plate? Do you use a hexagonal spacer?

7bit wrote: Excluded are everybody who ever got a refund!
(except if you got the refund for a lost order etc.)

What about people that are still waiting for a refund for a lost order?

@matt3o: Do you know if the molds are made with a fixed stem or the mx stem could be swapped with an alps or some other stem like with the SP's molds?

Blender is probably a good option free software. But the answer to this question is - the one that you know the best. I'm using Maya, just because I know how to model in it. All these applications are complex and unintuitive at the beginning and most of the times the learning curve is quite steep ...

I'll be interested to see a video of you pressing all the thumb buttons.

Alps for a custom board, please. Mostly interested in alphas and fn keys. But I'll buy one or two tenkeyless sets if needed.

Btw my dsa pbt alps blanks from SP are pretty good, I don't know why everybody is complaining. They are the same as the dsa pbt blanks cherries. The fit is also similar to ...

Left thumb for space bar, right thumb for enter... 5-6-7x space bars are waste of space and fingers.
Just trolling

souldsnake wrote: where is my refund?!!!!!!!!!!!!

Same place mine is -> 7bit's /dev/ignore.

pomk wrote: Is the stem orientation of iso enter also rotated?

On my m0118 set it is vertical/rotated.

@evangs:
1. I guess it is too late to ask for a "A pack of 10 1x DSA blank keys" added to the group buy, isn't it?
2. What is the orientation of the alps stem for the numpad enter or + 2x keys?

Have someone seen/used SP DSA ABS double shots in Alps stem?
I have one such cap that is for the MX stem and it is terrible.
It sounds hollow compared to both SP DSA PBT blank caps and some generic cherry g80-3000 post 2000/2005 caps (the keyboards price as new was something like 75 euro).
I'm using ...

I guess I lack a lot of imagination, but I cannot work out how one is supposed to type on this board.
Can you show a picture with your hands placed on the board?

scottc wrote: FWIW I waited about 6 months or more for my refund of ~$150.

Great...

7bit wrote:

obfuscated wrote: 7bit: Still no info on the refund for #773! Any chance it will ever happen?

I take care of this today.

Two months later and still no refund...
If you don't plan to refund me please say so!

obfuscated wrote:

7bit wrote:

obfuscated wrote: 7bit: Still no info on the refund for #773! Any chance it will ever happen?

I take care of this today.

Still nothing...

Almost one month later and I'm still waiting for the refund.