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by mbarszcz
15 Feb 2025, 21:17
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

YALE70, I gave your flat head screwdriver a try on my "E" key which is one of my worst, but it didn't seem to make any real change for me. I do see the light colored wear "dust" in the same place as you though.



For those reporting this, are your findings more prominent with a particular key size ...
by mbarszcz
12 Feb 2025, 04:35
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Oelmuvun, thank you for trying the different things and reporting on them. I'm not sure we arrived at any definitive conclusions other than the fact that there are multiple people experiencing premature wearing causing scratchiness/binding with heavy use.

A barrel with no burr (originally from the ...
by mbarszcz
10 Feb 2025, 06:13
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Oelmuvun, you can really see in your photos the difference before/after with the shadow cast by the burr disappearing.

What method did you use to remove it? I wonder if it would be possible to test the difference outside of disassembling and reassembling the whole keyboard for one barrel.

I hate ...
by mbarszcz
10 Feb 2025, 03:48
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

That is a much better picture of that burr.

Being recessed down in the barrel like it is, I have a feeling is going to be tricky to remove "automatically" as most deburring tools are designed to take a burr off an edge not in the middle of a tube. Plus the rest of the barrel needs to be kept as ...
by mbarszcz
10 Feb 2025, 01:22
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Oelmuvun thank you for sharing your experiences with the problem.

The reason I went for the dry lube was to try to avoid any grease/oil attracting dirt/debris since the surfaces are exposed to the outside of the switch mechanism (unlike the rails inside an MX style switch). Have you found either of ...
by mbarszcz
09 Feb 2025, 00:48
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

I guess I did contradict myself between the two posts. It all depends on the situation I suppose. What I'm trying to say is if the scratchy feeling is going to follow anything, it seems to follow the stems once they are damaged. Once a stem is scratchy, it seems to be scratchy in its original barrel ...
by mbarszcz
08 Feb 2025, 06:57
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards


After reviewing your additional notes and photos, I can't really diagnose whether there is an issue from here so it would be great if you could wash all the keys (soaked in water, not only wiped by hand) and send the full set back to me for testing. The parts must have all lube and debris removed ...
by mbarszcz
05 Feb 2025, 23:09
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

I think you misunderstood about the teflon. I applied it to some keys because they were sticking after some time, that was not the cause of it. The keys right now that are not sticking are: the ones that are infrequently used and the ones that are frequently used with the Teflon. What that does to ...
by mbarszcz
05 Feb 2025, 15:35
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
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Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Sorry ellipse, I meant PBT for the caps/stems. Are the barrels made of the same material or are they something different?

Even if other people have it reported the issue to you, or they "aren't as sensitive" I don't see how that would change the behavior of the keyboard itself. Either the keys and ...
by mbarszcz
03 Feb 2025, 20:27
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
Views: 5062086

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

I'm noticing that the wear/keys sticking when pressed off-center issue that was being discussed previously by resonator seems to be more widespread than I thought. I've started noticing recently that it impacts heavily used keys as well, not just the unstabilized keys larger than 1U keys near the ...
by mbarszcz
15 Jan 2025, 03:49
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
Views: 5062086

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Bummer, not surprised though. I have had good luck with the dry lube on mine. A few tips:
- It only take a drop. Give the bottle a shake first and then put a drop on the outside of the key stem and move the stem around to distribute it evenly. You will be surprised how much is on there.

- Don't put ...
by mbarszcz
04 Jan 2025, 06:57
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
Views: 5062086

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards


A few pages back I was trying to resolve issues with scratchy keys. I tried all sorts of experiments but I couldn't fix it. I improved it mildly by swaping caps, but I had no solution.

Today my replacement caps and barrels arrived so I replaced the stratchy keys, which of course fixed it ...
by mbarszcz
26 Oct 2024, 20:03
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
Views: 5062086

Re: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

Just wanted to thank you Ellipse for all your effort you put into making these new Model F keyboards a reality. I've been following this project for many years now and had an original F122 that started with the original xwhatsit firmware which never quite worked right for me despite constantly ...
by mbarszcz
12 Feb 2021, 04:59
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
Views: 5062086

Re: F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

For any F122 owners who may stumble on this thread in the future, I had a chance to try pandrew's QMK firmware for the Model F out and it is amazing. It fixed all my key sensitivity problems that I've struggled with for years. Phantom presses, keys not registering, inconsistent performance with ...
by mbarszcz
10 Feb 2021, 04:57
Forum: Group buys
Topic: F104+SSK+122+62+77+50+Ergo orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards
Replies: 9218
Views: 5062086

Re: F62+F77 orders now open! New Kishsaver+Industrial Model F Keyboards

After years of fumbling around and swearing at my F122, I somehow finally stumbled on this thread. Reading what problems people have had even on the new F62+F77 keyboards has validated my struggles for years with my original F122. Even after refoaming it, clamping it, bending it different ways ...

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